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1/22/2007 10:56 AM
 
David Snow


www.AgingSafely.com
Joined: 9/18/2006
Posts: 226

I too noticed that since I switched to using DNN Google was not using the "Description" from my meta-tags and wondered why and where it was getting the data from.

Just for the Heck of it I tried changing the xhtmlConfomance tab in web.config from Legacy to Traditional. It didn't appear to make any difference to the ID tags.

However, I did notice a that I have been  getting general exceptions from GoogleBot ever since I setup a forum (one per hour or so). GoggleBot never comes when you want him, and is there every few minutes if something is wrong.    The exception is for a very long URL that I can't find the source off on the page.

I just ran GSiteCrawler, a sitemap tool, on the site and I don't see the offending URL.

/dave

AssemblyVersion: 04.03.07
PortalID: -1
PortalName:
UserID: -1
UserName:
ActiveTabID: -1
ActiveTabName:
RawURL: /Forums/tabid/284/forumid/5/threadid/3/threadpage/0/scope/posts/www.AgingSafely.com/Forums/tabid/284/forumid/5/scope/threads/www.AgingSafely.com/Forums/tabid/284/mid/690/groupid/1/www.AgingSafely.com/Forums/tabid/284/forumid/1/scope/threads/Default.aspx
AbsoluteURL: /Forums/tabid/284/forumid/5/threadid/3/threadpage/0/scope/posts/www.AgingSafely.com/Forums/tabid/284/forumid/5/scope/threads/www.AgingSafely.com/Forums/tabid/284/mid/690/groupid/1/www.AgingSafely.com/Forums/tabid/284/forumid/1/scope/threads/Default.aspx
AbsoluteURLReferrer:
UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)
DefaultDataProvider: DotNetNuke.Data.SqlDataProvider, DotNetNuke.SqlDataProvider
ExceptionGUID: 57e24893-6c8a-484f-a3ef-bebb2aa0f2c8
InnerException: Unhandled Error:
FileName:
FileLineNumber: 0
FileColumnNumber: 0
Method: System.IO.Path.NormalizePathFast
StackTrace:
Message: System.Exception: Unhandled Error: ---> System.IO.PathTooLongException: The specified path, file name, or both are too long. The fully qualified file name must be less than 260 characters, and the directory name must be less than 248 characters. at System.IO.Path.NormalizePathFast(String path, Boolean fullCheck) at System.IO.Path.GetFullPathInternal(String path) at System.Security.Util.StringExpressionSet.CanonicalizePath(String path, Boolean needFullPath) at System.Security.Util.StringExpressionSet.CreateListFromExpressions(String[] str, Boolean needFullPath) at System.Security.Permissions.FileIOPermission.AddPathList(FileIOPermissionAccess access, AccessControlActions control, String[] pathListOrig, Boolean checkForDuplicates, Boolean needFullPath, Boolean copyPathList) at System.Web.InternalSecurityPermissions.PathDiscovery(String path) at System.Web.HttpRequest.get_PhysicalPath() at DotNetNuke.HttpModules.UrlRewriteModule.OnBeginRequest(Object s, EventArgs e) at System.Web.HttpApplication.SyncEventExecutionStep.System.Web.HttpApplication.IExecutionStep.Execute() at System.Web.HttpApplication.ExecuteStep(IExecutionStep step, Boolean& completedSynchronously) --- End of inner exception stack trace ---
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Server Name: WHSSL102

/Dave S
 
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1/22/2007 10:28 PM
 
cathal connolly


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I think you've made a typo, the value is transitional not traditional (see http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms228268(VS.80).aspx). The error you're seeing is an asp.net occur that occurs with overly long paths. Theres a known issue with the google spider and urlrewriting that we fixed a number of versions back, please check your your web.config file  and ensure your forms tag has the cookieless="UseCookies" attribute set.

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1/23/2007 2:36 PM
 
Mike

www.simplyoffsite.com
Joined: 9/4/2006
Posts: 13

Matt,

I have nothing against the other search engines. For me they don't matter. Their content is old, they spend forever on my site and generate no traffic. For a period of about 6 months I was consistently in the top 5 positions for my chosen key word phrase on MSN and Yahoo and the traffic generated was negligible.

Google spends a small amount of time on my site each day, indexes new and changed pages within a couple of days, and generates traffic, even when I'm not on page 1, 2 or 3.

I think, and this is only an opinion, that those more technically skilled when it comes to computers, use Google and those with other interests, like clothing, movies, TV etc. use whatever is on their device of choice. The market I appeal to are the more computer literate.

Mike
 
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1/23/2007 2:46 PM
 
Mike

www.simplyoffsite.com
Joined: 9/4/2006
Posts: 13
ErikVB wrote

Found this blog post on the subject: http://www.seroundtable.com/archives/006780.html

as far as i understand it, Google only uses the description when no "generated snippet" can be found on the page. Google resides to the text in the top of the page to show a description, unless a meta description is available.

Thanks Erik,

I know it seems odd to me. Google has picked up the description for every other page on the site, just not the "home" page. I know that if the description is too short then it will look elsewhere but that was not the case. I did have a ":" in it and wondered if that was the source of the problem... I'll know in a day or two I guess.

I'm not worried about the description in terms of page rank. My interest is in being more informative for human readers.

Mike
 
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1/23/2007 6:57 PM
 
David Snow


www.AgingSafely.com
Joined: 9/18/2006
Posts: 226

I may have made a typo in my posting, but not in my web.config <xhtmlConformance mode="Transitional"/> I cut it out of the same msdn page that you referenced and I still have the <head id="Head"><meta id="MetaDescription" name="DESCRIPTION" content="A...   ID tag.

My  <forms name=".DOTNETNUKE" protection="All" timeout="1000" cookieless="Use Cookies"/> was already set to Use Cookies.

The Google "Description" issue is important to be because 60% of my referrals come from Google and I'd like to have the correct description. I also suspect that the same problem probably affects Keywords as well.  We live and die by what shows up in Google. Any suggestions on how to work around this problem would be very welcome.

Did I understand that you think that "UseCookies" should have fixed the Long URL or is that truly a Google problem? I still get the Exceptions about 1/hr. I gon't know why the GoogleBot is hitting that often. Maybe they have improved my Google Rating

/DaveS

 

/Dave S
 
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