ok.. I've had a play around in dnn.controls.dnntoolbar.js to see if I could make it work better, but I can see that it might not be so easy.

I had originally thought that the icon was staying there with some sort of mouseover thing where it would not go into the exit cycle until the mouse left the area or the exit buttons were clicked. Instead, the icon only pops up when the mouse is moved over the area. Then when the mouse stops, the icon goes straight into the exit cycle where it waits a specified period and vanishes. This means that the icon is only really there when the mouse is moving or it is held by the exit-delay.

When I set a shorter exit delay, it is harder to reach the button before they vanish.

Even so.. is there a place I could insert a pre-delay into this? I would still like to test it out as I'm pretty sure that it would reduce clutter in the situation I described.

I also mentioned a situation where the cursor and edited text remained invisible until the mouse was moved.. that makes sense to me now that I see how it works. In certain situations, something is causing a slow-down of the script and changes are not made visible until it catches up.

Not sure how to fix that up.

Hi Jon, I Appreciate the reply.

The issue I had brought up was in regard to having many text modules on a single page and that having possibly dozens of edit icons popping up and staying there was highly confusing to the user. I find that one particular skin I have seems to cause the toolbar script to slow down and cause this. I also find that using a slow computer causes the same issue. It is not a problem on a fast computer and on my other skins.

I do however have one suggestion. Would it be possible to split the popup code between the icons and the toolbar so that they can be timed to vanish differently? It is fine that the edit icons come and go quickly, but I really don't see any particular benefit in the way the toolbar keeps vanishing during editing... I'm finding it's more of a hassle.

It's not as if it hides anything being edited, it also does not provide a better wysiwyg view of the page when it vanishes, but it does mean one has to keep waving the mouse around to make it come back. I'd be keen on a setting to make the toolbar remain visible until the edit mode is exited.

Ideally the icons would delay and vanish at about 500ms and the toolbar either remain until closed or if it has to vanish, then delay for a much longer period.

Regards,

Rob