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9/30/2007 2:57 PM
 

1.  Make DNN next-to-impossible to install.

2.  Offer consulting services to assist with installation.  

3.  Profit!

Have any first-time-installers here had success installing DNN without at the very least having to refer to message boards to decipher what exactly went wrong, how to correct it, how to back out any changes and start the installation over and start again?

Just curious.

 
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10/1/2007 10:45 AM
 

I am not aware of any profit or commercial consutling services (at least of one that uses installations as business idea).

I am no first time installer, quite the contrary. If an computer is setup correctly, which means it has a more or less default framework, IIS and SQL Server installation, DotnetNuke will run in about a minute.

 
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10/1/2007 1:15 PM
 
So why do I get these error messages?
"Installing Database - Version 4.4.0...Upgrading Database to Version ERROR: See E:\DNN\Website\Providers\DataProviders\SqlDataProvider\04.04.00.log for more information...FAILURE 400 - Conversion from string "ERROR: See E:DNNWebsiteProviders" to type 'Integer' is not valid."

BTW: there is no 04.04.00.log

Patrik


 
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10/1/2007 1:50 PM
 

Funny but any huge web application has its challenges.  Primarily the setup of the machine you are connecting to with.  I would love an installer that makes it idiot proof.  The current installer goes a long way, but you need to have everything pretty much right to even be able to run the installer.  I installed it ok the first time at 1and1 then kept getting errors.  Found out that it was because 1and1 sucks.  No one at 1and1 could even help me to solve the issue.  I went to easyCGI and tried to install 4.6.  no luck.  I then had easy CGI install their default "easy scripted install" (version 4.5.0).  It worked fine except for being a bit buggy with almost daily application reboots (out of memory error).  After the 4.6.0 and 4.6.1 issues panned out I installed 4.6.2 clean last night on easyCGI.  It went without a hitch.  Ultimately I have learned to stick with the point releases after they have had some time in the wild and use a sponsor web host who is "DNN friendly" and can provide the support if you need it.

 
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10/1/2007 3:35 PM
 

They VERY first time installing DNN can be a little troublesome if you just jump right in and try to go. I know the first few times I installed 3.x it took a few tries and a few read throughs of the instructions, some checking google, ect. Most of that was me failing to have all the settings correct, IIS access, Directory Permissions, Database user set properly, ect. Once I figured out how to do it, I can breeze through it in about 10 minutes from nothing to a working install (that includes creating SQL users, ect).

That was with 3.x. The installation process has been GREATLY improved somewhere in the 4.x line and, I feel, makes it a smoother process. Still takes me about 10 minutes, but that is still mostly setting up the SQL and Directort access for it to run.

For first timers, I would VERY highly suggest to follow the documentation step by step, as it should allow you to have a working copy on the first attempt. And if there is still a problem, google will probably have the answer. :) Always has for me.

I hope you are being kinda sarcastic with the post. :) Just venting at the frustration of troubled first time installs; I would like to say that on my local machine (where things need to be set) I've NEVER had a first time install of an advanced website that didn't have an application installation process (exe) run the first time I've tried, Never. For anything. It's just a problem with unfamiliarity. On remote hosts, all the settings are already set, so I just upload and go, and have had very few problems with that.

Personally, if you are having difficulties installing a free product, and your first step would be to find a consulting service to help you, I'd suggest buying a similar propritary system that comes with a support package. I'm not saying that was your first step, but in general. I'll explain my thinking on that. :)
I've been able to find the answer to EVERY one of my questions on installing DNN, even on Vista Ultimate with IIS 7, by searching the internet. A lot of times I get directed back to these forums which have the answer. Other times I get directed to other DNN related sites that have the answer and oft step by step instructions to get it running. And it's not advanced searching, it's most often just the error message and "Dotnetnuke". If someone is unable to find the info online, or are just inclined to turn to someone else to get it done, that person is probably not going to be happy with any type of 'unsupported' software. There is always some level of learning curve that some people never try to climb.
Again - That is just my personal opinion.

 

 
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