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3/14/2008 12:05 PM
 

I think stuff like this may have been addressed in other areas either online or in this forum, but I am in DESPERATE need of help here. I'm a total DNN noob with no prior experience and I'm working on a web portal (it was an existing thing at the new job I am at.) I'm running into errors when running the web applications and I can't put in break points or do proper debugging and it is making it EXTREMELY hard for me to fix the errors I am encountering. I believe we are using DNN 4.7.x on a Server 2003 machine. When we try to "run" the project for debugging it just goes to Localhost and shows the root directory listing. I have to imagine that DNN would not be as popular as it is if it somehow prevented the user from doing in depth debugging that is common in a regular asp.net application. Can anyone offer any insight on this? I really am getting desperate here.

TIA,

 

David

 
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3/15/2008 1:50 PM
 

As with any software application there will be a learning curve, but when you combine these different technologies the learning curve becomes much larger. Add a myriad of configuration settings, and extensive IDE and security precautions and it is overwhelming. No one becomes an expert in a day, period.

Most of what you have mentioned has nothing to do with DotNetNuke. Your problems are configuration issues with IIS and Visual Studio.

First of all, you should dedicate a workstation with Visual Studio, IIS, SQL Server, .net, DotNetNuke to work with source code and debug locally. Why? Because it is the quickest way to see things work. You should be able to get this part working before attempting debugging or even considering remote debugging.

Your information is confusing. Are you running locally or on a server? Why do you have IIS directory browsing turned on? What is the startup project in the IDE? What is the startup page in the IDE?Did you move DotNetNuke from a local installation to a server?

Finally, what specific errors are you getting? Normally DotNetNuke works fine, until someone experiments with IIS, file permissions or web.config. In many situations DotNetNuke startup errors will be recognized by the community and a simple related tweak will get you up and running.

Another common mistake is to find an error during installation – fix the problem – then continue installing the partially installed application. This will leave your app in an unknown state and guarantee other issues later on. In this case you should reinstall from scratch, meaning delete the database and all files in the virtual folder and reinstall and restore config settings.

One does not need a debugger to follow instructions.


Dwayne J. Baldwin
 
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3/16/2008 3:35 PM
 

The problem was that I came in and they were not doing "local" work. I agree that what you should do is that you have local copies of DNN on machines which then upload to the test machine, but this was not being done. As a result, whatever thing that needed to be configured was not. I pushed them about why we could not debug these things, and near the end of the day on Friday they went and installed DNN on one of the machines, exported the necessary files to that machine, and now they can do debugging. On Monday I plan on doing the same to my machine.

I realize that debugging is not the end-all-be-all of programming, and that people did programming for a while without this luxury. However, when you have deadlines and you are dealing with a technology that you are not very familar with, debugging is a god-send. And not having that was REALLY hurting us.

Thank you for the advice anyways. I have another question but I will be directing that to the proper area, not the deployment one.  

 
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3/16/2008 5:06 PM
 

I understand your situation and am trying to help you in any way I can. You have kept everyone guessing about your problems - the only thing we really know is that you are desperate. You can’t blame me, DotNetNuke, or the community for something that you inherited from others and/or promised to others.

DotNetNuke is a solid content management system that you will not learn overnight. As with any framework, it may take weeks or months until you really become proficient.  If you need help, you should seriously consider the advice from experienced users in our community. Not only will it save you time it will save you all sorts of aggravation.

Or you can attempt to debug the application based on your admitted limited knowledge and get nowhere in a hurry.

It’s your choice.


Dwayne J. Baldwin
 
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