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9/18/2008 10:53 PM
 

Alex, I understand what you are saying, however since 99% of our effort is development then we have no issue with application testing through beta's, certainly better to have a general heads up than nothing at all, esp. when we know that we may have o code review our own DNN development efforts eventually.

When I disovered the beta menu on the dotnetnuke site I had obviously missed the boat because it has always been blank when I have looked, I think that we should all have the opportunity to participate in beta's (some will contribute others will not)

We have two servers dedicated to DotNetNuke prerelease testing where we upgrade against clients data prior to production deployments. However since DotNetNuke closed the access to Beta's we have lost the edge to provide timely support.

Really not happy with this policy. Sorry in our case we can not rejoice!

Cheers

Craig


Craig Hubbard TechnicaOne Business Solutions - Australia
 
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9/18/2008 11:05 PM
 

Sebastian Leupold wrote
 

Craig,

DNN release candidates have always been released to a limited group only, there has been once an open call for beta testers, but the results haven't been really helpfull, therefore another strategy has been chosen. Since this is steered by DNN Corp. I will ask one of it's representatives to answer your question.

Sebastion

Thanks for your response, There must have been a change because I do have some early RC's in my DotNetNuke archives, from memory they used to be listed as RC's on the downloads page. I een recall one release that created some confusion as to it's RC status when some people moved it directly into production (but that's another matter)

Personally, in our environment we do not enjoy the exclusion in this project to not have access the RC's, While DotNetNuke is not core to my business, we do have a level of expertise that helps us support local clients who have implements DotNetNuke.

I hope that this policy is reviewed and additional consideration be made.

Cheers

Craig

 


Craig Hubbard TechnicaOne Business Solutions - Australia
 
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9/19/2008 1:14 AM
 

There was some discussion and posts related to this Craig at the time the decision was made - a year ago? I suspect it had something to do with a couple vocal complainers or others who demanded extra support -- when the intent was simply to get feedback - not to have to handhold some foks through this. I could be off on this though. Also I think if you really need access you should sign up as a platinum member ($$$) as they get better communication about the upcoming plans and can sample the code earlier.

I simply am curious for an updated (estimated) date for release of Cambrian. The first post in this thread indicated it could be available as early as a few weeks after early June! - Well we are a bit later then that, but I am curious if others have any idea of the release plans: open beta, solve 10 showstoppers before releasing - or what?! I well understand there are no promises, but wonder if the HOPE is for a few more weeks or will it be after the October Open Force conference at the earliest?!

 
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9/19/2008 8:43 AM
 

Well, if this gives you any ideas about how close they are, I have access to the betas and in beta 7 (the most recent beta) you can't even log in without getting a critical "Object reference not set to an instance of and object" error.  Considering that 5.0 was orignally supposed to be released in January (per OpenForce Vegas last year), I'm not holding my breath for it any time soon.  I expect that it will be out at the OpenForce October conference because they have a 5.0 training session at the conference, however, considering the extreme lateness and the quality of the current beta,  I expect the October release to really just be an official beta that's released for marketing (much like the inital 4.0 release which sucked and was released prematurely to coincide with an ASP.NET 2.0 release).

 

@Craig - By the way, I tried going to your website and I'm getting errors.

 
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9/19/2008 7:04 PM
 

Craig, I really do understand your view, but honestly I think up until now we really didn't have anything stable enough to test against. I think if we release beta to a broader scope of testers we would have had more complaints about the beta being "rubbish" if we had released it to everyone, plus miles and miles of duplicate issues logged in gemini which would have been impossible to process. For instance check out Tony's comment above that he "can't log in", which leads me to a reply in my next post (which is an entirely seperate topic).



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