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10/22/2008 2:39 PM
 

Myself and a few other DNN friends whom have been using DNN since the 2x days were having discussions that it is obvious that the average price of DNN skins have jumped from an avg of about 25.00(that being the majority about 2 years ago) to an average of about HALF $100.00(or $49.00 /$50.00 to be exact). With a few at the Out RAGEOUS price of $100.00

And what we're finding is that some of these skins aren't worth it at all. Many times we just purchase the skins to figure out how everyone else is doing it and then proceed to create our own... but seriously:

Has anybody noticed that some of these skins are somewhat over priced? Open Source is becoming "OPEN BLING SOURCE" in some cases.
True some skins are worth the $80.00 or so but to be honest we're finding that with more of the high priced skins actually not worth it.

Just a sign of the times i guess.... just like everything else, we find a good thing and then the Price Hikes begin. Its just interesting to go on Snowcovered and you look at some of these skins that are price HIGH and you say to yourself... "whats so special about the price of this skin?" I can create this!

Anyway... i was just curious if the rest of the forum is noticing what i'm seeing. I guess us designers could just pass the costs off to our clients who could be just your average "Joe the Plumber" needing a website for his business and gets a Sticker Shock when you tell him the price of a DNN Skin that he likes.

What will the price of such DNN skins be in 2 or 3 years?

 
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10/22/2008 3:50 PM
 

I agree, the price of skins has increased. The question is, how much do you charge the clients for creating a skin versus how long would it take you to create a skin you purchased for $50? The skins may not be great, but buying the skin is saving somebody time (money). Otherwise, nobody would be buying them.


John Eimer
 
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10/23/2008 1:30 AM
 

Hi

Well i always thought that skins were cheap from the beginning ( at least for the good quality ones ) If you compare that to teh amount of work you put into it. Especially i the old days with all the work there was needed in getting skins to look good in all browser all the non information and tedious classes system on the solpart menu and very much no html copliancy.

Lets say for a simple skin the price is $50 thats not even a good hourly wage. So if yoy an do the same in an hour go ahead. Thats the wholr deal with off the rack skins. You want a skin that looks ok but that lot of people can have then you buy a cookiecutter skin. If you want quality you need to pay more and then a custom skin is the way to go and that takes time. So obviously you pay more.

I wouldnt say a lot of the skins are overpriced. Some skins look liek there is only very less time spend on it so an hour maybe more but even then lets say for the simplest skin an hour to make the design, an hour to make it into html and css, and hour to make sure all the menu css behaves and then some time debugging and checking in various browsers. Then if you base it on what time it would cost you to do the skin its always cheaper to buy if you value your time. That doesn sa I like the quality of the skins in the skinning community there is like 1% thats real quality the rest is garbage.

For you as a buyer the skin is always cheaper time wise to buy it for the skinner he hopes to sll more so his time does get paid ok. But ive always been amazed what people buy the worst skins could be foudn in the bestselling skins on SnowCovered one time or another not because the wereg ood but becausethere were like a gazillion color options and even more container not because of the quality of the skin

A custom skin would set you back way more then you can demand quality and be a lot more picky

 

just my 2 cts

 
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10/23/2008 12:53 PM
 

Yes Armand I agree with you but at the same time and I myself being a Web Designer for many many years understand those headaches of cross browser compatibility (along with those MAC issues but that’s another discussion in itself as I’m a PC) But seriously though TO US the Designers for any Portal type applications WE KNOW what it takes to make a skin but to some clients, they don't have a clue to what we go through and to them it looks like pretty pictures.

Don't you just love when you get those ones who say..."Why can't you just do this this way or have that place in this spot of the screen" and etc. 

And when you present it to them and you give them a final price there's always that "STICKER SHOCK" and if nobody's seen a Client's mouth drop open then they've probably haven't been working in a face to face agile development environment long enough. I too enjoy the fact that I can go find a pre-built skin instead of spending hours on the research of cross browser compatibility. But rest assured, it never fails that the client will always want changes to even those premade skins... and then when you get into the skin, you find out that it was POORLEY designed or that it’s a NESTED TABLE NIGHTMARE or worse yet you find that it’s a NESTED DIV nightmare where editing the stylsheet is like Hit and Miss when trying to align those pixels again. There's also those instances where the client re-thought what the perceived is not in actuality what they really wanted. They See... They Change and We the Designer charge them again. I only find this to be the case with some SKINS where if you have to make modifications that it’s a coding layout Nightmare.

All I’m pointing out is that all of us are DNN specialists and are still thankful for DNN being OPEN SOURCE because it’s actually putting food on the table for some of us. If we design a skin or a "color skin package" that’s actually worth $80.00 dollars, then it should be worth that. But I’m only concerned that "Quality" Matches the price. Do I really need 31 flavors of skin only to find out that a picky client said "Well it’s a shade off my Branding colors" (That actually happened to me and if it hasn't happened to you yet.... trust me it will and you'll almost fall out of your chair.) There have been numerous times I’ve had to scan a client’s business card or brochures and pull the colors from that and proceed to match. OR go to their old website CSS and pull from that.

If you really wanted to package a skin with an assortment of colors, we should at least have the option of just purchasing that color as any Designer with Photoshop can alter the hues through batch automation and BINGO your Blue site is now Purple or whatever your clients branding is. And i sit after approval and think to myself "I just spent $80.00 dollars on ONE layout that has like 50 or 60 rainbow colors in a skin where i only needed 1 modified color." WOW!

Sorry if I offended any fellow skin designers. I understand and aware we all work very hard. That’s not my intention of starting this post... its mainly on emphasis on Quality and Needs of the designer or client truly matching the final price and giving us the option of selecting the Package of 31 flavors or just one color option.

But you have to admit.... there are some skins out there that don't deserve to be $80.00 dollars. Especially if its not a package of assorted colors.
It was just an observation on my part. There's price Hikes on everything these days.  Even the skins are affected. Its just the times we're living in I guess.

 
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10/23/2008 1:24 PM
 

RegGFX wrote
 

What will the price of such DNN skins be in 2 or 3 years?

Whatever the market is willing to pay, I guess.

I have yet to find a skin worth more than maybe $50 to me.  Most are close to what I want, but need adapting and adjusting.  In many cases though, adapting them is as much or more work than creating them from scratch.  If someone wants exactly what the skin is, then it's often worth the fee.  If not, it's worth less.

Jeff

 
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