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2/16/2009 9:20 AM
 

John Tisdale wrote

I have to say that as a DNN user since the pre-DNN IBuySpy days, I've feared this day coming. In my 26 years as a professional in software development it's been a pattern I've seen repeated numerous times. It happened with Community Server and many other Open Source initiatives. It starts out free and open and over time becomes commercialized and closed. Once commercialized, it becomes increasingly more expensive and proprietary. I've genuinely hoped that DNN would resist the temptations and remain true to the initial vision. I feel betrayed. I've invested thousands of dollars and thousands of hours in DNN. In my opinion, DNN has taken its first step toward the dark side. The lesser experienced may not discern the signs but it's clear that DNN has taken the first step away from true openness into the realm of proprietary closed systems with Professional Edition. Now, it's time to start looking for alternatives before it gets further out of hand.

Mourning this day!

 

The announcement of the professional edition was announced at least two months ago. What has prompted you to express a sudden concern only today?

[Update] I noticed the availability of option of purchasing the professional edition so I think that's the source of concern?

 


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2/16/2009 9:26 AM
 

Nina Meiers wrote

At the end of the day - if you don't like what's happening with DNN you can choose another solution. 

That's not a viable solution after one has invested time and money. You do this when deciding which solution to start with.

 

 


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2/16/2009 9:35 AM
 

We are workign on the reseller program.  It will take a little longer to create but we first needed some experience selling DNN Pro so we could tweak it as necessary and create the needed marketing collateral to make it easier for our reseller partners to discuss with their clients.


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2/16/2009 3:24 PM
 

I have been around this block before too, and a lot of times a tech company will steadily tell you to pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. However, as long as DNN keeps offering a Community Version comperable to what it always has, I see no problem.  The Pro Version should come with support, which would be a great thing in some cases and cause me to use that particular version for larger, mission ciritcal sites.

On the ownside, while you say module development is decentralized, it still depends on developing for the platform. If DNN changes the Pro core to make it different than the Community Version core, then module developers may quit developing for the Community Version.

If they see that there is more profit in developing for the Pro Version, they may simply quit offereing a Community Version module at all and just stick with high-end Pro Version development. I would hate to have to choose the Pro Version because a module I need only has half the features in the Community Version.

Module development has been growing by leaps and bounds for the last 2-3 years and developing Pro Versions or lesser Community Versions may slow that down a bit due to having to charge higher prices for more and better features. Module developers may not see any reason to develop a small but useful module that sells for less than $50 for the Community Version.

Another thing to consider is the competition. DNN has been far superior to many other CMS out there, even expensive ones. This may not remain the case. I have looked at other CMS at  times looking for a particular features I couldn't find in the DNN community. Once you have to start paying for a CMS platform,  most buyers will shop around before they commit to their purchase and perhaps base that purchase on particular features rather than overall useability.

DNN has been the best bang for the buck, even if I had to buy expensive modules and I could usually talk my client into a happy medium. Having to pay means I won't just settle AND pay for expensive modules. I will start looking at who is offering the features I need. I think a Pro Version may be just the ticket for some applications, I just don't want the module community to start neglecting those who use the Community Version. Or, worse yet, DNN Pro become propreitery module developement does as well.

 
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2/16/2009 5:41 PM
 

Those are good points Beth. 

I personally don't see DNN Corp. forking the base code so that module development will be different between the two.  That would certainly be a mistake IMO.

I asked a question about them adding a Name field to the version table to signify if it was Pro or Community a while back wondering if it would be used for anything like what you are saying and Charles said it was just for naming purposes.

Like everyone else though, I'm eager to find out more about what makes the Pro version different than the community version.  I don't see how it could just be support since they already had a paid support option. 

My guess is they'll be adding more functionallity with their own modules, but that is just a guess.


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