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3/26/2010 3:41 AM
 
I think whenever a good not very complicated module is needed by many users, a few users/developers can band together and create it. The WordPress community is very active and lots of stuff is free. DNN not the same. My guess this is related to Linux vs Windows parallel. Lamp developers love free open source. Windows not so much.
 
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3/26/2010 4:14 AM
 
Tony Hussein wrote:
I think whenever a good not very complicated module is needed by many users, a few users/developers can band together and create it. The WordPress community is very active and lots of stuff is free. DNN not the same. My guess this is related to Linux vs Windows parallel. Lamp developers love free open source. Windows not so much.
 
The DotNetNuke project is not very inviting for new users to contribute. I don't know if this is intended, but it has been going on for years and nobody with authority wants to fix it. We have several problems:
 
There is no wiki. Important information is scattered around on various external sites that appears and disappears as time goes by. Even critical information like safe upgrade instructions and upgrade paths is located on external unofficial sites. 
 
Dead or slow moving teams. Many core modules have very few releases each year (if any). Not because they are perfect, but because their teams are not functioning. And it's very difficult to find information about how to join a team and submit patches. May be they don't want any help.
 
No decent repository for user contributed extensions. "The forge" is a joke and an insult. Nough said. 
 
Because of these problems the DotNetNuke community is fragmented and weak. Everybody is trying to fend for themselves and make a buck from snowcovered or some google ads on their sites. As the CE and PE versions becomes more different with time, it's vital that the community steps up and takes charge of the CE specific components. When PE was introduced, CE lost it's web farm support. With this recent purchase there is no hope of having the search engine fixed with any help from the corporation. And if you think it's working, you are not really using it.
 
This is not a "Windows vs Linux" problem. It's a DotNetNuke culture problem. 
 
 
 
 
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3/26/2010 6:18 AM
 

I know i may regret this as a devoted DNN follower since version 2. I too have had concerns over the past year to the direction the platform is heading. I personally use the cms for personal interest and use so rely heavily on the free offerings of kind developers out there.  One thing first comes to mind about the current purchase is I don't see anything official about it being included in the PE version only.  DNN over the yrs has advanced greatly and still areas that have lacked as I’ve read are the file manager component. I suppose apart from Chris speaking on this issue and again not denying or confirming whether the new purchases are only going to be included in the PE versions and not CE's.  I personally hope the corp. will give back to the community an offering as such that will in my view enhance an area that has lacked attention. I suppose to end this can someone officially confirm this purchase is only going to be included in the PE and not the CE versions of the core. If this is to be included in both a lot of this speculation can be being blown out of perspective. Long term also I suppose will also every module purchase only ever be included only in PE and not both as if the case then as such enhancement do seem to more less focus on the us CE community rather than the PE.

Craig

 
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3/26/2010 6:29 AM
 

 From the press release:

"DotNetNuke Corp. will add the O-DL and O-SE modules to the DotNetNuke Professional, Elite and Elite Premier Editions in the next 30 to 60 days. At that time, O-DL and O-SE will no longer be available for purchase as standalone modules. In the interim, you may continue to purchase both modules on Snowcovered.com as you could in the past."

 
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3/26/2010 6:31 AM
 
Michael Gerholdt wrote:
Daniel Kuzikov wrote:

 Why nobody considers this situation as an opportunity? A niche is opening for another independent module devoloper to step in and create a new module with similar functionality. DNNCorp might not be happy with such outcome but I don't think they will or even can prevent this from happening.

 

My thoughts as well. DNNCorp is not they bogeyman and it's a bit ludicrous to think that because they purchase some good quality modules to incorporate into the DNN core that the world comes to an end. Perhaps there will be something lost but this is the nature of business, software and otherwise.

Though it is possible to see or paint a more sinister scenario, I don't find it convincing. Without being simple and naive, I actually expect that in the end, much (if not most) which benefits PE will also benefit CE to an appreciable degree.

 

One of the problems with that line of thinking is that one-off modules from an independent module developer holds a certain degree of risk - no track record, no longevity, no reputation, and little recourse. And one of the reasons given for the purchase of ODL was that it made more sense to acquire rather than develop from scratch. And regardless of the "sinister scenario," we are left with the fact that PE just got stronger at the expense of CE. Sure, an entity can step in and "fill the void," but do you really want to wait around a year and go through several rounds of point releasds to get a solid replacement to what was just taken away?


Eric Swanzey
www.swanzey.com
 
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