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9/14/2012 1:18 AM
 

I have a DNN 5.6.3 site that I'm moving from one hosting vendor to another; the new vendor is Arvixe.com.  This is not an upgrade; it's a straight site move; I rebuild this site as a test bed on my Win7 laptop all the time.  I have the files uploaded; I have the database restored.  The new vendor has a pre-production URL I can use to test the site.  But when I tried to go to the new site, it took me to the "under construction" page in the /Install directory.  Usually when this happens after an install, one just deletes the /Install/UnderConstruction.htm from the address bar and refreshes it; but that didn't work, it just went back. 

I last upgraded this site in I think June 2011, and apparently I forgot to delete the /Install directory after I was done.  I'm fairly sure I should have done this, but I've rebuilt the site on the laptop several times without deleting it, and I never had this problem.  Since I don't think the /Install directory should be there, I deleted it, which means the UnderConstruction.htm page no longer displays, but when I try to load the site the address bar still displays this URL, even though the directory and the file no longer exist on the site:

http://oaklandsymphonychorus.org.nigh...

I've restarted the site; I've restarted the app pool; I've changed the default file list so default.aspx is on top.  I can't load the site.  Help, please??


hedera
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9/14/2012 3:11 AM
 
hedera,

The file and the directory must still be there because I am getting the page from the server when I follow your link.

I also cannot change the url to go to any other page.

Sounds like a host configuration/control problem to me. Is this an experienced DNN hoster?

Bill
 
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9/14/2012 12:48 PM
 

Bill,

The directory is there because, after thinking about it (it's been on my production site for at least 6 months based on my backups, so it can't be a problem), I put it back, especially after reading a post by Sebastian Leupold on why we keep it around. I must have remembered the "have to remove it" from a much earlier version.

Sleeping on the problem overnight, I came to the same conclusion you did:  it's a configuration problem at the host.  My move has already been delayed half a day because the site bindings for the temporary URL were pointing at the wrong IP; and now this. Worse, I can't delete the link from the control panel or even add a second one.  Back on the phone with the vendor. At least when presented with a problem, they do fix it.

 As for are they experienced - well, they seem to be a well regarded ASP hoster, they won an award this year from hosting-review.com, and they've been in business since 2003.  You know as well as I do that no hosting company is perfect; and I really want to get off my current vendor, Chillox, because of their email policy.  Sigh.


hedera
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9/14/2012 5:46 PM
 

Bill, you may be interested in the response I got from Arvixe to my "temporary url doesn't work" ticket:

"My apologies for the issues. The Dot Net Nuke installations don't typically work with the temporary URLs, unless they are set in the process of the installation.

This link may provide a bit more guidance for you:
http://www.dotnetnuke.com/Resources/F...

If you don't feel comfortable working with DotNetNuke in this fashion, it may be best to wait until the domain name fully points here before working with it, to avoid these issues. "

The link, of course, goes to an article that says you have to build the temporary url in when you build the DNN site, and then remove it.  But I'm not building a site; I'm moving a site.  I've suggested that they should add the temporary url to portalAlias, to be removed after we go live; I can't do it myself because I don't have write access to the database (on a shared SQL server; we all log into "master" but can only look).  I think this would work and I'm very not happy about waiting til the DNS changes propagate to find out if my site move worked.

This is just one more example of the fact that their whole site transfer process assumes you're running a Linux system.  At least some of them do understand how DNN works.


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9/14/2012 11:26 PM
 

Arvixe support suggested I should add the new dedicated IP and (non-www) domain name to my local Windows hosts file, to try to get to the temporary site. I tried this, but I still get the "under construction" page either with the domain name or with the IP.

I really believe I won't be able to open that site on their systems and evaluate it unless one of two things happens:

  1. I swing the DNS, and make any necessary changes and patches on a live site.  I still have to build some virtual directories to support our podcast feed to Feedburner.
  2. Somebody adds the temporary URL string to the portalAlias field in the site SQL database,

I say "somebody" because on their shared system, I don't have the authority to do the update myself - or to remove it after we do go live. 

First, am I right?  If we add the temporary address string to portalAlias, in the third position behind oaklandsymphonychorus.org and www.oaklandsymphonychorus.org, would that let me open the site and work on it??  Second, would this be advisable?  Arvixe support people seem to feel it's dangerous.  I begin to think I know more about DNN than they do.


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