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12/5/2013 5:44 PM
 

The major free open source CMS platforms have sites like wrodpress.org, joomla.org and drupal.org. Even before going to the site you know you're going to a non-profit non commercial site with the .org tld. Is there a dnn.org, dnnsoftware.org or dotnetnuke. NO!

Now go to dnnsoftware.com and pretend you know NOTHING about the site or its offerings. What do you see and what is your first impression from the hole and solutions pages? Your first impression is that you're at a commercial site. Why? Because of the wordings. "Request Pricing". Whenever I go to a site that says this, it tells me the offering is EXPENSIVE and they don't want to 'shock' the visitor with the price tag. What do "Free Trial of CMS Demo" and "Try It Free Today", "Start Social Trial" & "Start CMS Trial" evoq (evoke.. pun intended)? They evoke commercial products. If you go to the solutions "Free Trial" is splatters in different areas.

The only wording that might suggest a free product is "Try our Community Platform". Some people will miss that means free. What's wrong with using "free open source"? It's very direct and it's not confusing one bit. 'Community' does not necessarily mean open source. I just went to check Telerik's Sitefinity page. I thought they once had a free community edition. I don't see it now so they probably stopped it. Anyway, although it was a community edition, it's was closed source.

 

 

 

 

 

 
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12/6/2013 7:09 PM
 

I've been absent from the DNN community since taking over the family business almost three years ago.

Updating the company took me longer than I thought but a couple of months ago I'm finally starting to be at the point to start thinking about the fun, exciting part of building our web presence. My first stop?  My beloved Dotnetnuke.com.  Opps - new name now - ok I can kind of see that (although it will always be Dotnetnuke to me), like the one page style scoll down site (sorry Brian), but that new logo ewww....  the old one (newer 3d version) is still tons better.  The new one looks like this is some kind of add-on to Pinintest - not manly at all!  (LOL!)  Don't tell me - Will S. designed it didn't he?  (LMAO)  So after looking for awhile I find they've finally done it - they've dumped my favorite part of dnn.com - those pesky forums!! Gone - what a sad day! What a valuable resource for answers!  Ok, I'll admit I did search for awhile but obviously not long enough - mainly because I pretty much expected them to be gone I guess. They were always such a PITA to the Corp guys and seeing that the site had gone almost entirely commercial it wasn't too surprising.

So since I have no voice anymore (I haven't helped a new user in three years) I will just post a list of observations:

  • The thing I find most interesting in this thread is the join dates of all the posters.  Almost entirely old timers. Assuming that Mariette Knap is the one I remember from years ago and not a new this year newb.  Hummm.... zero posters that are only a year or two old??  I remember I used to watch that new user counter DAILY to see how many new users were coming over to the "cool" side! :-)  Something tells me I would be shocked to see those numbers now?
  • However, I am also shocked to see some the the names being floated on the home page - Samsung, etc. !  Cool.  Good for you guys!  And here I must eat some crow - 4 years ago or so I predicted the numbers wouldn't be there for DNN Pro as $2k to $3k per year put you into some heavy competition for a pretty small pie. Still don't know if the numbers are there but you got some hefty names and you lasted longer than I thought so kinda same thing. I stand corrected.
  • Another thing that hasn't been talked about much in this thread (other than Chris mentioning it) is open source developers. If you look at the DNN community at it's peak (2007 - 2009 range) DNN had lot's of folks that could code. I'm guessing but it might be that there are not as many people willing to invest their time into a project that really isn't a community anymore - as is extremely obvious from their commercial website.
  • Didn't know about Coding Staff but have seemed to notice a decline in Snowcovered lately.  Didn't know that Active Forums wasn't being supported - that one really hurts. Didn't know about the URL module being bought either.  I'm now very afraid to dig into all the new stuff - as it sounds like DNN Platform might be missing the tools I need to build a good social site? :-(
  • I thought $2k to $3k was expensive - but hey it was for Enterprise Class Software.  So that must mean the $11k Envoke is Regime Class?  My little company can't afford Regime Class software......  YET!  Of course when I can I'll probably stick with the open sourced software that helped me get there - whatever that may be.

In any case it was fun to see posts from some of the friends I made back when Dotnetnuke was a community.  Wish you all well - whomever is that last one out - don't forget to turn out the lights!

Greg Brown (aka Leazon)

 
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12/7/2013 3:23 AM
 
Hey Greg, welcome back! Yes, it is me :) that you remember me.... makes me wonder what I have done...
 
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1/16/2014 3:00 AM
 

OH my - this is what came to my inbox today - 

I registered a domain for my client, using domain privacy - and it seems that out of the blue, they have somehow found out that this site is using DNN and sent this email through to my client.. coming to me instead.

Talk about cutting someone's lunch DNN.

How does DNN know that this site is using DNN  unless there is some call home feature??? Is there? Can someone please advise.. 

I clicked the unsubscribe link which took me to 'manage my subscriptions'

NOT COOL.. I'm gobsmacked that you're now poaching my clients. Why? Why do this? Do you really want to erode the confidence further? You're pitching EVOQ to my MY CLIENTS.. ffs.

Can someone please explain what CALL TO HOME stuff you've got in the build.  Can this be turned off?  Honestly I feel sick now thinking that you're going to be going out to go and poach my clients now. 

Anyone else get this?

Nina

>>> email snippet.. 

Hello Domain Privacy

With DNN Platform (formerly known as “DotNetNuke Community Edition”), you can build a rich and engaging website for your organization. As your organization grows, however, so does your site traffic. And that means you may face reports of slow page loads, downtime and security concerns. In addition, you want to support mobile visitors and be able to manage the multiple contributors of your site content.

But where do you start? Check out our white paper to learn how Evoq Content (from DNN) can address these considerations (and more).

Best,

DNN Corp.


Nina Meiers My Little Website
If it's on DNN, I fix, build, deploy, support,skin, host, design, consult, implement, integrate and done since 2003.
Who am I? Just a city chic, having a crack at organic berry farming.. and creating awesome websites.
 
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1/16/2014 3:28 AM
 
EVOQ spam is all over the net - I cant hit a site these days without being profile spammed by google ads.

But of course DNN has a call home - any time you log in as an admin - the system calls home to work out if there are any updates available - how else would it do it.

As to if this then triggered some sort of promotion - who knows.
 
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