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7/7/2006 3:07 PM
 
David Lumley

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Joined: 5/3/2006
Posts: 107

SmeHaffie - you seem to have missed my points

1) You obviously understand the meaning of the term Release Candidate - many others - especially those new to the system do not!

2) Your response about Most companies overlooks the benefits from clarifying that the release is not suitable for production for the less astute users

 

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7/7/2006 6:00 PM
 
brian

Joined: 1/22/2004
Posts: 793

I wish the core team would pay a little more attention and have some understanding why everyone thought the release would be the release.

Please read this blog post:

http://www.dotnetnuke.com/Community/Blogs/tabid/825/EntryID/420/Default.aspx

1.  "is now in full Stabilization phase"  -   it does not say full beta stage, it does not say full pre- release candidate phase

2.  "The purpose of providing early access to Platinum Benefactors was to allow for sufficient compatibility testing of complementary products and services, as well as to provide serious DotNetNuke vendors with the ability to get familiar with new features and enhancements which can be leveraged in their business as soon as the release goes public. Early indications seem to indicate that this program is a complete success."  -  It does not say 6 weeks of testing followed by 6 weeks of RC mode THEN release.   It says can be leveraged as soon as the release goes public. 

3.  "It contains defect corrections and minor enhancements to the previous Beta build and represents a "feature-complete" release package. "   - note release..  not release candidate

4.  "will be in Stabilization for a minimum of 4 weeks as we work with our partners to deliver the highest quality public offering."  -    release candidate mode is typically the stabilization mode..   because when in beta mode that is definitely not stabilization mode.

There is not one reasonable person that can read any of that and assume the next 3 or 4 releases to the public would be release candidates.  If that were true, nothing was accomplished using the benefactor program.   This is following the exact same SDLC patter as before.   Release..  bugs..  fix...  release..  bugs.. fix.. release.  

I am sorry to be blunt but it is right there in black and white.   Either it was misleading (maybe unintentional) or the plans changed. 

 
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7/8/2006 2:43 AM
 
Shawn Mehaffie

Joined: 1/4/2003
Posts: 2313
This was a post to just let people know that the release was in Beta and being tested by Benefactors,

Your comment "If that were true, nothing was accomplished using the benefactor program" is incorrect and the benefactore Beta testing was a success and eliminated quit a few significant bugs that the community will not have to deal with.

There release candidate are "feature-complete release packages" but as a release package there still could be issues that make it not quit ready for production use.  Release candidate let run you application in a lot of different use cases, thus usually more bugs are found than you can find in internal QA tesitng and limited Bete (aka: benefactors) so having a couple of release candidates is a good thing in the long run for DNN and the community.

You are going back to a document that was posted over almost 2 months ago when you should be using the download pages where the most recent information is posted.  I am sorry to be blunt but it is right there in big bold letters on the download page

DotNetNuke 4.3.2 ( Release Candidate )
 
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7/8/2006 5:13 AM
 
Ton Hermes


Joined: 1/6/2005
Posts: 608

Hi,
I upgraded from 3.1.1 to 4.3.1 and it did not go well.
Therefore I downgraded to my old version DNN 3.1.1.

I’ am just a simple user and do not know about installing etc.

This was handled by the people where my site is hosted.

Somewhere in the forums, somebody wrote that if the site of dotnetnuke itself was using a certain version of DNN it was safe to use it.

This was the reason for me to ask the server people to do the upgrade.

I do not know anything about release, gold, production etc.

I just saw a new version in the download section and I thought was safe to use it.

Maybe it is possible to put a warning for simple users like me ?

 

I like DNN very much. Thanks to everybody for making this possible.

With regards Ton Hermes

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7/8/2006 12:16 PM
 
brian

Joined: 1/22/2004
Posts: 793

two quick points..

1.  I have always said DotNetNuke was for developers only.   I keep hearing that is not true.  If not true,

    -  the latest build should not be listed with the other downloads.   Non-developers do not understand release candidate.

  -  it should not be listed at the top..  people always download what is the latest version number and what is first on the list

2.  I can read Release Candidate but you did not answer where in the last 9 months (prior to the first RC) was it mentioned that there would be a series of release candidates before a GAC?

The process should be set and probably in writing.   With the 100 or so posts in both forums about when the release was coming..  it was never mentioned that only a release candidate was coming.  All that was said was we cannot give dates.   I am just trying to point out why the confusion and as much I read and post..   I thought it was going to be a fully supported release.

 
 
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