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1/15/2007 3:32 AM
 

Hello,

I have just remarked the following in my site logs:

1/13/2007 5:20:01 PM   Application Started
1/13/2007 4:32:06 PM   Application Shutting Down
1/13/2007 6:04:17 AM   Application Started
1/13/2007 3:23:26 AM   Application Started
1/13/2007 1:25:39 AM   Application Shutting Down
1/12/2007 6:48:30 PM   Application Started
1/12/2007 6:30:25 PM   Application Shutting Down
1/12/2007 2:55:45 PM   Application Shutting Down
1/12/2007 7:03:03 AM   Application Shutting Down
1/12/2007 2:41:53 AM   Application Shutting Down
1/12/2007 12:43:48 AM  Application Shutting Down
1/11/2007 9:43:39 PM   Application Shutting Down
1/11/2007 8:38:26 PM   Application Shutting Down
1/11/2007 4:46:07 PM   Application Shutting Down

It's not me who initiated the shut down or restart... Strange !!! And sometimes, it is shutdown, without restart it seems !!! Anyone has an idea ? What could I do ???

DV

 
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1/15/2007 4:43 AM
 

Hi DV
See these posts on this subject. The issue seems to be a dot.net problem for which a hotfix exists.
My very helpful ISP tells me that MS say the hotfix is "last resort".

http://www.dotnetnuke.com/Community/ForumsDotNetNuke/tabid/795/forumid/118/threadid/45826/scope/posts/Default.aspx

 


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1/15/2007 10:11 AM
 

Thanks a lot BetaCam for the thread. But I am afraid that there is no solution for this... ??? Or I am not clever enough to understand what to do, excepted living with it... SIC !!!

DV

 
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1/24/2007 1:56 PM
 
Betacam wrote

Hi DV
See these posts on this subject. The issue seems to be a dot.net problem for which a hotfix exists.
My very helpful ISP tells me that MS say the hotfix is "last resort".

http://www.dotnetnuke.com/Community/ForumsDotNetNuke/tabid/795/forumid/118/threadid/45826/scope/posts/Default.aspx

 

I don't understand why so many people are afraid of hotfixes.  Every single server I operate has a hotfix installed within 2 weeks of it being released.  As a custom software developer, I will not even support my products on servers or workstations until all microsoft hotfixes have been applied.  It's the first thing I check.  I have found this to save me countless issues.  I have a lot of experience around network engineers who take the alternative 'if it's not broke don't fix it route', but have seen many times how my system has (in the last 4-5 years - since microsoft has really gotten good with update stability) saved me a lot of time.

Hotfixes come out for a reason - in the rare case that they do "break something" (such as what happened with Win2K SP2, and WinXP SP1) - it's ussually for a GOOD reason; because "unbroken" things were vulnerable to attacks, or causing system unstability.

The *one* time I had a hotfix actually seem to break something, i spent a few hours on the phone with some of the developers at microsoft to assist them in developing an issue - and they had a new hotfix available for me within a week.  That single time when upgrading cost me so much time is compairable to just one single virus infection; or untracable bug / performance issue.

If you're dealing with a hosting provider that won't apply service packs and hotfixes, chances are that you're dealing with a hosting provider that is charging a very cheap rate ($5/mo) - and you're getting what you've paid for.  Find a provider that deals in quality - not quantity.  What is an extra $250 a year?  That's about 6-8 hours of time from your network admin troubleshooting a problem with your provider.

Look at how many posts on this site are complaining about how GoDaddy's hosting service isn't working, or some other hosting provider isn't working...  Move your business to the small guys that specialize and charge a little bit more; and you'll end up happier in the long run.  Small guys can provide big bandwidth too.  I use GoDaddy for hosting - but I lease entire windows servers that I control - multiple of them for fault tolerance reasons as well as load balancing; Charging $35/month for hosting - it's not that I'm getting rich - it's that I'm adding value by providing a higher quality support with the same infrastructure reliability as the 'big guys'...  I've lost some customers to those $5 a month places - and half of them came back!

 
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1/25/2007 6:21 AM
 

Hi Matt
You make some fair and valid points, especially about GoDaddy and the like. I too have often wondered why anyone does DNN on hosts that know little about DNN and often MS hosting too.
While not wanting to turn this thread into a "My Hosting is better than yours" I would just point out that in the UK and Europe we no not have the options that US DNNers do as many people have good reasons for not wanting an offshore host.

IMO: The money charged by the hoster is not the issue (for me) as I simply pass it on to the client. I have lots of DNN sites now all on a shared reseller hosting package that is amazing value but the reason I am with this company is for their technical abilty.

When I started with DNN there were some (MS) EventQueue / Impersonation issues and it was my hosting provider that got to the cause of this and started the DNN posts on this subject. They also showed me how to edit the global.vb file to work around the problem.
I think you will agree this is not the standard ISP repsonse to a DNN issue and so, when they tell me that a hotfix is noted as a "last resort", I tend to take their advice esp as its not a show-stopper..
Even with this restart issue my sites are faster than most DNN sites I look at / visit.  My plan is to look at this again once 4.4.1 is available (Today! Thanks) and maybe then go back to my hoster about the Hotfix.

Anyone looking for UK DNN host could do a LOT worse than check out Red Fox hosting 
I am happy to help any DNNer hosting there. ian@modularmedia.co.uk

 


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