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10/13/2009 11:33 AM
 

I have tried it and found it to be very difficult for me to get though the tutorial.  The line numbers on the tutorial do not match up and show enough detail of where to copy and paste stuff.  I believe that the base skin that you download is partially completed from the tutorial.  When i look at some of the step, the line numbers would line up if I did not past the code from the yaml builder.

I would love to have someone send me a fully completed base skin they completed for the tutorial.  I could then treak it for my needs.

Thanks

 
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10/14/2009 6:46 PM
 

I have been working on this myself, basically as a 'pet project' for the sake of learning. However, I usually come to the conclusion that for producion sites (particularly high-concept designs) a pure CSS skin for DNN isn't practical right now (at least, for me).

Those reasons for me?

1 - Production Time:  Maybe I'm just still too 'green' with more advanced CSS layouts, but there are some things that I can either spend 3hrs fighting with Div/Span CSS layouts or just drop them in a table and go in less than 30minutes.  My current bane-of-choice... multiple columns, the floats and clears just never cooperate. When I finally do manage to wrestle them in, a module usually blows them out once it's inserted causing a howl of frustration and usually a feline getting punted across the room (no, not really). This leads to #2.

2 - Modules: Some modules are starting to move towards more CSS-friendly output but for the most part I still find them outputting to tables and blowing my Div/Span design out all over the place. My clients usually care about functionality first and rarely care much about the technology / code behind it. If it works well and ranks well, they're happy. This translates fairly simply to: if I create a skin that can't accept / work with the modules I need to provide the desired functionality I'm just causing myself more headaches and longer delays.

3 - Frameworks - I've tried YAML, Blueprint, DNNGrid, and several others. However they all seem a bit wonky and are still getting their sealegs... it also bothers me that alot of the push for pure CSS skins is to avoid code bloat and when I look at the rendered skin code for most framework, it's just as much of a mess but instead of Table, TR, TD elements, it's a mess of nested divs, spans, and so on. Add to this the requisite extra code for the DNN framework and I wind up feeling like I'm spinning my tires for naught.

4 - High-concept Designs - We all have those clients who want the next Oakley site but who don't have the budget. These are the ones I usually capitulate on the quickest when it comes to pure CSS, which leads back to #1 - time = money, if it has to be cheap, it has to be fast... and lately cheap rules the day, particularly with me losing at least one sale per month sniped by outsourcing firms. (however, I usually do enjoy hearing the horror stories that they come back with)

Sorry if I'm a bit all-over-the-place... end of the day and all.  Don't take what I say as the gospel, only as one developer's experience with trying to shoehorn in all the functionality of DNN and its third-party modules to a pure CSS skin while staying within budget and still trying to find time to sleep at night.

I'm open to any discussion or corrections.

Wells


Wells Doty Jr
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10/15/2009 1:15 AM
 

Hi

Well I have used dnngrid960.com ina bout 100 of our cleint sites now small or big. one of our latest fuily tableless skins is http://www.fdselections.nl . Its a content heavy site we build for a large financial newspaper that getting more and more vistors. It started out as a 960 grid but in the end didnt work out for it so we made a custom version

 

Another one based on 960 is http://www.nuzo-utrecht.nl/

 

And my new http://www.schwingsoft.com is heavy in graphics but also tableless

 

I have done other sites that im not allowed to give out or that are internal use only but hight in design in css layouts also. Its all possible but takes a bit more planning then a standard table skin. Espeially when using 3rd party modules without source and crappy html output

 

 

 
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