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12/28/2006 3:49 PM
 
Lynn


www.artreach.net
Joined: 8/27/2004
Posts: 338

Hello

If a folder contained several skins, each requiring the same Doctype. Then, would a single universal named: skin.docktype.xml file meet the requirements of each skin/page within the folder? Or must each page within the folder require it's own SkinName.docktype.xml? 

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12/28/2006 7:20 PM
 
Lynn


www.artreach.net
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Posts: 338

Hello

I can now answer my own question. However, the answer I have found does not seem quite right.

I have a skin folder which contains 10 myskinpage.ascx  pages, the skins have no tables and are css based therefore I needed a xhtml DocType.

I tried just using 1 myfoldername.docktype.xml file but it didn't work. I found I needed to create 10 individual MySkinName.docktype.xml files within the one folder to make the xhtml  docktype work in my skin.

I am sure somebody will enlighten me to a more efficient method of doing this as the above seems a tad excessive, or maybe I have misunderstood something.

Lynn

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12/29/2006 7:44 PM
 
Nina M


www.berrydigital.com.au
Joined: 1/23/2004
Posts: 1961

You know what - I've been playing around with this now - and I had problems with the doctype being rendered using xml - I think that is because the skin file is called skin.html and skin.ascx - now that I think about it.. but I just dropped this -

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">

into the html file - and when it rendered it was in the ascx file - much more simple, no extra xml file to have in there. 

We're doing a run of css skins for the http://www.skincovered.com January Goodie bag.. and incorporating different menus we're trying out as well as a new menu John is doing, and you know what - it's a simple solution.. And what I like about this more is that I can have a mix of skins sitting in the folder. EG - If I do a suite of skins, some may be more difficult and require tables or using the default settings.  And also - it's nice to work with if you're using something like expression studio which allows you to work in quirks mode - and see, before you upload, how it should look.

More than that - I thought that it would let me put in a custom docheader for any file I have in there, without having to have lots of skin folders which I hate.  You don't have to create any Lynn, just drop the code into the html file and it works..  Nice and neat and tidy!! 

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12/29/2006 8:27 PM
 
Nina M


www.berrydigital.com.au
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OK I have to retract that Lynn sorry - I thought it was simple but it appears it doesn't actually parse it - it's just looking at the skin folder.

So if you put into the ascx or html file like I cleverly did -   - following every other way I've worked with DNN - it won't work, it puts 2 docheaders in the default.aspx file. When I initially checked the source file of the skin - I had a bit of scroll happening, so didn't pick up 2 in the first place, but I just looked and there are two - which is not a suitable option.

Sorry for the bum steer - but I'm talking to John about it at the moment - so for now - you're going to have to have lots of xml files in your skin folder. As soon as I know more I'll post here.

Nina Meiers

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If it's on DNN, I fix, build, deploy, support,skin, host, design, consult, implement, integrate and done since 2003.
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12/29/2006 8:44 PM
 
Lynn


www.artreach.net
Joined: 8/27/2004
Posts: 338
cathal wrote

I blogged the details @ http://www.dotnetnuke.com/Community/BlogsDotNetNuke/tabid/825/EntryID/1226/Default.aspx , sorry for the delay (xmas turkey induced coma :) ). I'll update the skinning documentation when I get a chance. Ill also blog a little about the reasons for the current implementation and some other bits and pieces tommorow (i've received half a dozen emails  already so I'll aggregate my answers into a blog post)

I originally found a note on the Microsoft site advising against using an explicit DOCTYPE declarations in the ascx file itself (as an ascx is a page fragment it can cause a failure to load). As John notes, as doctype is now controlled by a server tag, you can of course update the reference via the ascx i.e. skindoctype.text="....", which is safer as the page event model will handle any multiple declarations.

Cathal

Hi  Nina

Thanks for the info.

 I no longer do skins in html but ascx, which  has so far taken me ages to attain.

Therefore in order to efficently use Doctype I must  now create html skins, or am I mistaken?

Regards

Lynn

 

 

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