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2/1/2007 11:35 AM
 

I'm not surprised to see "Application Stop" and "Application Start" messages in my log file. I am amazed to see 20-45 minutes or more between the stop and start!.  Can anybody explain how this can happen and if my web site is actually unavailable during that time? The site is running 4.3.7

/DaveS

========================= Log Summary ================

 

2/1/2007 9:28:36 AM   Login - Superuser   WebMaster   Aging Safely, Inc.   IP: 71.112.8.113;  ...
  2/1/2007 2:21:38 AM   Application Started        ...
  2/1/2007 1:45:36 AM   Application Shutting Down        ...
  1/31/2007 8:57:58 PM   Login - Superuser   WebMaster   Aging Safely, Inc.   IP: 71.112.8.113;  ...
  1/31/2007 3:49:12 PM   Login - Superuser   WebMaster   Aging Safely, Inc.   IP: 71.112.8.113;  ...
  1/31/2007 3:13:10 PM   Login - Superuser   WebMaster   Aging Safely, Inc.   IP: 71.112.8.113;  ...
IP: 71.112.8.113
Server Name: WHSSL102
  1/31/2007 2:02:55 PM   Application Started        ...
  1/31/2007 1:42:51 PM   Application Shutting


/Dave S
 
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2/1/2007 12:27 PM
 

IIS cycles applications that don't have any activity (typically after 20 minutes) so what you're seeing is normal. The site is NOT down as per say during these times but IIS is cleaning up any resources that the site is using since there has not been any activity. When the 1st user hits the site after the site has shut down, all the resources for that site are loaded back up in memory and it will then be faster for the 2nd or more user that hits the site..
This is typical with any IIS server (unless you've changed the default timeouts.

 


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2/1/2007 1:33 PM
 

More importantly along this line would be precise information on all settings in IIS and DNN that control the "session timeout" and IIs timeout processes.

We are experiencing strange behavior and can't tie it down to IIS Application Pools (worker process recycle def: 20min), IIS ASP.NET State Configuration in Machine,config or web.config (def : 20 min) or IIS Home Directory, Application, Configuration, Options ... Session Timeout (can this be unchecked in any case for DNN?) (Def : 20 min).

Scenario : We have a module that presents a data entry form to the user ... the information on the form requires the user to type in very detailed and acurate information which can take some time ( up to an hours with typical interuptions and distractions ... right?). 

Of course, when the user submits the form, the data never goes anywhere, since the user is logged out, and DNN logs them back in sending them back to the Edit Form page, WITH NO INFORMATION ... IE the orriginal blank form.  Needless to say they are somewhat annoyed!

So ... somewhere along the way the user session has timed out ... we have been doing extensive testing, and cant figure out which setting, or DNN override is causing the problem. 

Is there something in DNN that sets a "timeout" during the "Edit" mode of a module? I'm guessing not.

I believe the ASP.NET State Configuration is what I should be concerned with, and we can set the settings to 1 minute, but our sessions stay alive longer than this setting ... typically approx 5 minutes .. then they do indeed timeout.  However setting these settings to 120 minutes seems to still yield a 20 minute window.  What gives?

What is actually controlling the session timeout settings?  How do I keep users connected to this DNN/IIS site for 2 hours?

Thanks!

Chuck

 

 

 

 
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2/2/2007 10:55 AM
 
Chuck - have you tried using a SiteKeep Alive? I believe there's one that comes with the core and there are also commerical modules out there that do the same thing. I believe this will keep your site alive (and hopefully your user's session too)... If it doesn't keep your user's session alive, you could also bump up the session timeout in IIS and set that to some high number to prevent the user from losing his session with the site.

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2/2/2007 12:35 PM
 

csherer wrote
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Is there something in DNN that sets a "timeout" during the "Edit" mode of a module? I'm guessing not.
{...}

Have you tried to modify "timeout" in web.config:

    <authentication mode="Forms">
      <forms name=".DOTNETNUKE" protection="All" timeout="60" cookieless="UseCookies" />
    </authentication>

DV

 
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