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HomeHomeOur CommunityOur CommunityGeneral Discuss...General Discuss...Is DNN really open source, or should it be called controlled source?Is DNN really open source, or should it be called controlled source?
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4/22/2007 5:13 PM
 

That is an interesting observation Michael.  I agree that your evangelism in the area of hobbyist module development is probably making the percentages change.

I would still hope that the more hard core developers see the advantages of actually contributing back to the core of the application though.  
Especially since some of the external projects are being centralized back into the core application.

I really don't think it should be recommended that people stay away from the core source of an open source application, but your statement does reflect my observation of how the source is managed in this project.

 

 


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4/22/2007 5:44 PM
 

One reason I caution people to stay away from the source is that they tend to make changes to it because that is easier then learning the API and the "recommended" way of getting DotNetNuke to do what you want it to do.

The problem is once they make changes to the core then the site wont upgrade. To me upgrades is the "harvest" of the fruits of DotNetNuke. I run into so many people who have sites that are based on DotNetNuke but can't upgrade because their programmer "did things their own way".

It is for this reason I have tried to document as much as I can to guide people on extending Dotnetnuke in ways that will allow you to upgrade. It is for this reason I recommend they stay away from the core unless they need to borrow code.

However, I do see your point. DotNetNuke is "Open Source" for a reason. With "Open Source" we can all help each other by contributing.

I hope that most people would join the sub projects if they want to give back to the community. I could still use some additional members on the Survey module (grin). Also http://iweb.adefwebserver.com is a project that we hope to add to the Core. We are hoping people will help out because with AJAX web services are as important as ever. By operating "outside the core" we can take more risks. Also there is nothing stopping a competing Dotnetnuke web services project from starting up. Like the DAL and the "skinning" projects did.



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4/28/2007 7:52 AM
 

Just a friendly reminder. The source code for the latest WebControls and FCKEditor provider project downloads have still not been released.


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4/28/2007 8:21 AM
 

i opend this link "How to install DotNetNuke 4.5 to Windows XP Pro with IIS" but got nothing Video there.well its my last message to ask, please, when i run code after installation from Internet i worked on this URL " http://localhost:3118/DotNetNuke_04.05.01_Install/Default.aspx " after shut down Computer Next day i run same URL but got error message "Page can't be displayed" i changed in database table "PortAlias" a field HTTPAlias valus as "localhost:3118/DotNetNuke_04.05.01_Install" and again run and again got "page can't be displayed" please what is solution.all thing i did with Visual studio development 2005

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I'd like to make a proposal. 

When the source for this open source project is finally released, wouldn't it be nice if the community had access to all the latest source? 
It's bad enough that we have to wait on official releases to even see the latest source. So when we get the latest release and it has bugs, how can we fix them if all we have is binaries for referenced projects?

The WebControls project for the last two releases has not been updated, but the core project references newer builds on each one (good job getting a release build in the last release).

The FCK Editor provider has had several changes, but the latest project source is dated 11/27/2006.

My proposal is this:

Please make the build process include the building of all referenced source in the project that has been changed.  
Include all of the latest source in the source package of the core release.

If that is too hard to manage then please provide read access to all of the source at any time like most other open source projects.

Then again, maybe I am missing the boat.  Have all the developers that actually compile the source from this project gone away?

 
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4/28/2007 2:13 PM
 

I just stumbled across this thread and found it very interesting.  I am a big fan of DNN, and admit that I can see both sides.

For my personeral website I want a clear upgrade path, so me modifying the source can be a cause of many headaches. Since I've enjoyed the rich object module, I have been trying to find the right "fit" for DNN within my corporate environment.  For this, I would of course need to access the code to make updates/changes ( 25+ developers to continue, back to the community ).  Having said that I fully understand the branching issue, but ultimately I think you'd be hard pressed to find any member of SourceForge that doesn't understand that process. 

I hope as DNN becomes more of a platform, and less of a development community that it's roots are not lost.  If it wasn't for Microsoft releasing the code after all DNN wouldn't exist.  I hope that the reduced chatter in the forums around module development is not a sign to come or I fear that the grassroots development community that has been built over the years will fade back to ASP.Net

As a corporate member of a few larger open source projects I've always struggled with how the code code has been delivered to the community.  In my experience the Mozilla projects seemed to have been the closest to getting it right.  But, at the end of the day I think that to engage corporate support you need tor release all code with a public release, and offer "builds" of future releases, so that the community can see progress, determine impact, and help with the development process.  After all if only 1% of the community members are "developers" that provides you with a build community of over 4,000 programmers.  In my opinion access to such a mass group is what has allowed Linux to grow at it's current rate.

Ultimately I believe that DNNCorp will steer the product in the right direction.


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