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7/10/2008 1:17 PM
 

We have used DotNetNuke 4.0 in one of our previous projects. We have a new project coming up which spans 18 to 25 months of development. The new project can require O&M support up to 10 years. With this in mind I have the following questions
1.Will the higher versions (or releases) of DNN support the lower ones that are already developed?
2.How do we know if we need to apply a patch if a newer version is released?
3.Is there is any support provided? (Other than subscription program). How much does it usually cost for subscription program?
4.What major precautions we need to take if we plan to use DotNetNuke for 10 long years?
5.I am aware of some of the problems (Those with DotNetNuke 2 installations, you cannot upgrade to 3 if you use Third Party Modules. That is - Non Standard Modules that come with the standard DotNetNuke Installation). Will I have any problems with the future upgrades?
6.Can you please provide me answers to the above questions keeping in mind of the following
a.Upgrades of Visual Studio 2005 – 2008
b.Upgrades of SQL 2005
c.Problems with applying patches for the new releases.
d.Support for trouble shooting issues
 
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7/11/2008 11:36 AM
 

There is no way in the world of software that anyone can predict ten years out whether the solution you build today will still be viable.  You can guarantee that SQL Server and even the OS you run on won't be supported then.

Jeff

 
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7/11/2008 10:18 PM
 

I agree, most software has a shelf life of about a year or less.  There is already talk about web 2.0 becoming web 3.0 and moves in that direction.  In fact I would think that if in 10 years the modules in DNN are still compatible with the modules out now then DNN will probably be obsolete.  In order to grow huge changes will probably need to be made and in order to keep up with competitors out there improvements are needed.  Microsoft is already talking about when support for vista ends and support for windows 7 begins.  When you add in the technologies that dotnetnuke runs on asp etc, you begin to be talking about other companies and entities effecting what happens.  Even if you got microsoft and all of the other creators of the tech behind DNN in a room with the people from DNN all they would be able to agree on is that they hope to be around ten years from now.  I would suggest thinking about two and three years into the future and realize also that if in three years you haven't made many changes to the system you are using that you will loose a lot of features and advantages that keep a company mobile and able to move with the punches so to speak. 

 
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7/14/2008 4:00 PM
 
  1. Higher versions have some overlap with the older ones. You don't have to run the latest version to get support. 10 years from now though, I doubt if anyone will remember how to help you with version 4.x.
  2. You can set a "check for updates" setting that will pop up a new version icon on your admin console when one is ready, same with the core modules, if you want.
  3. Support is free through the forum or other's web sites and blogs. Paid support can be had through a number of vendors. I get about 80% of my support right here. Most paid support is by packaged hours per month/ quarter. About $90 hour I think for most services.
  4. I spend a large portion of my time researching issues, testing, evaluating and fixing as opposed to forging ahead building the site. But that's part of the trade off when you use any open source application and taking advantage of all the 3rd party modules out there. You're basically doing what you would be shelling out big $$ for someone else to do in a cms company. 
  5. Impossible to tell the future. With such a rapidly growing base of DNN users I would be very suprised if those steering the DNN ship put out a release that did not have a solid upgrade path. In fact, I have found upgrades to be getting a little easier over the past year that I have been doing them. I think all the core modules are held accountable to some pretty strict guidelines from what I have read.

I basically accept the fact that there is no 'hot line' to call when things go really bad (they only did once for me). People on the forum are awesome at helping you. And with a lot of reading up on DNN and some good backup planning the risk is minimal. DNN just has way too much to offer. Hope that helps.
Mike


Michael Emond
City of Manchester NH
www.manchesternh.gov
 
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7/15/2008 5:24 PM
 

memond wrote

I basically accept the fact that there is no 'hot line' to call when things go really bad (they only did once for me). People on the forum are awesome at helping you. And with a lot of reading up on DNN and some good backup planning the risk is minimal. DNN just has way too much to offer. Hope that helps.
Mike

i agree

Once you get to understand the inner working of DNN you'll realise its very straight forward. Good back up plan and in house knowledge on .NET / ASP.NET is enough imho. I never had mayor problems that made me sweat :)

@ TS

Eventually everything in IT will become obsolete, look 10 yrs back and see where we got from there. Making assumptions/predictions is a waste of time imho. I could have never predict what happend in the past decade. Most of the problems you describe go for every product you would choose for your project.

 
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