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2/4/2014 9:38 AM
 
"Is the desire to keep forums around just nostalgia or a need?"
I think each tool has its place in the toolbox. Like you said, forums are great for debates like this. Q&A would be horrible for this. What is really needed is good guidance on which tool to use for which task.

Peter

Peter Donker
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2/4/2014 2:31 PM
 
The forums is where I get support. Actually I didn't even know there was a Q&A area (Community Exchange) until I read here about the Q&A. Now I have to search two places for answers.

The forums are important. Where else can you have debates, discussion and.. gripes? I am having gripes right now. I haven't been using DNN for like two years. Yesterday I wanted to see what the latest version looks like and tried to install DNN 7.2.1 from the full source zip. The installer errored with a divide by zero error. I tried two different machines. I tried several times with same problem. I searched the forums and the solution was to copy the the 'install' folder from the install zip over the one created from the source zip. I mean what the WTF!!!. I wasted a lot of time because the person who packaged the zip didn't bother to do BASIC QA by trying to install a fresh install. Shoddy lousy sloppy work. The link 'View Installation Video' on the first installation page goes to a corp website that has no videos.

After the install has finished, the home page goes to page with no formatting as if no css is being applied. Another problem I have to troubleshoot.

So right now after spending a few hours, I still don't get a proper home page where I can see DNN. Two thumb down for a frustrating first impression.. and I am one thinking of creating modules for it!! Maybe I can make some money by providing support because DNN is a product that seems to require a lot of support and hand handling and it's an opportunity for technical people.


 
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2/4/2014 2:51 PM
 
Awkward. There's a lot of gripes about DNN, but not about the installation experience. I've installed 7.2.1 ten times without as much as a single hitch, but naturally the install zip. Where did you read/hear you should use the source version as a starting point for installing DNN? Just for your info: the source package contains the regular website dir without the dlls that make up the application. Then, it has a bunch of directories with the projects that make those dlls. It means you have to compile before can run (and those are set to compile right to the bin folder of the site). That is the only way and a huge overkill if you don't need to debug DNN. Why did you want to install a source version? Note that for many projects I've stumbled on, on the web, the source version also requires compilation first. For me it's usually a sign to steer clear and head for the binary version that just runs.

My 2cts,
Peter

Peter Donker
Bring2mind http://www.bring2mind.net
Home of the Document Exchange,
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2/4/2014 2:52 PM
 

That isn't an issue with DNN but with Windows.  Did you upgrade on Windows 8 or Windows 2012?  Newer versions of Windows is known to have issues extracting the files due to security.  Before you extract the install you need to make sure the zip is unlocked.

Another cause for that is if the install ran into a problem or if you didn't follow the correct upgrade path.  For example, you can't upgrade from DNN 4.9.5 to 7.2.2 directly.  It should be that simple, but it isn't.   DNN Corp. may want to have some validation in the install that verifies the current version and what they are upgrading to to prevent those confusions.  For now, you need to follow a specific upgrade path.  Ex: 5.6.8 to 6.0 to 6.2 to 6.2.8 to 7.2.2.   That seems to work the best for me.

There are other situations that may cause problems.  If you have a user base with 200,000+ users you will need to disable the auto assignment before you upgrade.  I think the issue is in 6.1.0 where it changes the description of the Subscriber and Registered User Roles, that triggers ASP.Net Membership to update all of your users and if you have a lot of users then it's very possible that your install could time-out and won't complete....causing a lot of issues.

 If your portals have a lot of files in the root directories then you'll also run into problems during 7.1.0 when the Content Manager attempts to index the files.  However, that is a much bigger problem, if you manage to get past the install you will have serious performance problems on specific pages of your site that could crash the entire system.  In this case, you will need to either modify the core to limit the index to 200 files or move the files to a SANS or a cloud provider.

The issues I run into are not the norm and only a problem for enterprise level companies with massive amounts of data and content.  In your case, I bet the zip file just wasn't extracted correctly due to Windows security.  Or... you didn't follow the upgrade path.



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2/4/2014 3:11 PM
 
Tony Henrich wrote:

The forums is where I get support.

 I agree, that it would be easier to handle all the community support via a single entrance point (and I still prefer forums, which provide better notification and overview), while DNN Corp. decided to use one of their great products.

As complaints don't help, we are trying our best to support both, but I'd kindly ask all community members to submit questions just once - thank you!


Cheers from Germany,
Sebastian Leupold

dnnWerk - The DotNetNuke Experts   German Spoken DotNetNuke User Group

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