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10/14/2009 5:00 PM
 

I guess I am mistakened then... but if you want to take advantage of any server-side event, you need JavaScript in ASP.Net to execute the postback.  How can you execute a postback without JavaScript?

JavaScript is a requirement in DNN (and pretty much any ASP.Net website these days).  To my knowledge (which apparently is lacking), there is no plumbing in place to have a JavaScript-free DNN instance.  If that's a weakness, there are other CMS solutions out there.  Like any other software, DNN is not a one-size-fits-all solution.

What browser are you trying to support that does not support JavaScript?

What usability and accessability concerns do you specifically have with DNN?


Will Strohl

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10/15/2009 6:41 AM
 

Will,



Twice I've tried to point out to you that it's possible to build an ASP.NET website which uses postbacks and server-side events without JavaScript. However, twice you've replied and seemed to insist that JavaScript is necessary. It isn't.



I'm must say I'm a little concerned to see you have over 1500 posts to this forum, consider yourself "an ASP.Net architect and developer" and are the "Technical Editor for Professional DotNetNuke 5 and DotNetNuke 5 User's Guide by Wrox, as well as Wrox Blox, including DotNetNuke and Web Standards", yet you are clearly struggling to understand the basics of ASP.NET web development, and web developement in general.



I wanted to take this opportunity to address these 3 of your questions:

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  • How can you execute a postback without JavaScript?
  • What browser are you trying to support that does not support JavaScript?
  • What usability and accessability concerns do you specifically have with DNN?

However, as I don't have that much time to explain the basic principles of HTTP and HTMl I'll leave question one as an exercise for the reader.



As an answer to your second question, please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Website_accessibility



And finally getting back to the point of my original question regardind DNN, my concern is that post-backs are not working without JavaScript, thereby making our website un-accessable to users with certain disabilities.




Please, please, please don't reply and say something like "if you want to take advantage of any server-side event, you need JavaScript in ASP.Net to execute the postback". You don't.



Good luck,


Darragh

 
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10/15/2009 6:56 AM
 

I'm not aware of any policy for the requirement of JS or changes to it, please log your this in the bugtracker., so the developers can look at it.

And as serious of a problem as this is for you, I don't think it will be acknowledged as a HUGE bug.


 
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10/15/2009 7:39 AM
 

Actually I've raised this as a trouble ticket though DNN Corp website as we have the professional edition,  and I was told by Cathal Connolly:

"...running DotNetNuke without javascript is not a tested or supported configuration. Since version 5.0 MS Ajax has been a requirement and it uses javascript to perform it's client-server interactions" and "...we have no plans to support non-js support at present".

Perhaps describing this as a HUGE bug was a little exagerated, but I think it's fair to say it's significant, and IF it's not a bug, and indeed DNN requires JavaScript this should be make abundantly clear.

-Darragh

 
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10/15/2009 10:45 AM
 

Hmm, right, I forgot about the Ms Ajax inclusion. My mistake.

 
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