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9/30/2008 3:36 PM
 
Matthias Schlomann


Joined: 8/10/2003
Posts: 3594

DavidToohey wrote
 

Hi Matthias

A little surprised, and shocked that you are now saying these are the only known bugs.

I've mentioned it numerous times here, as have others and it just seems moderators are blissfully unaware, and choose to remain unaware of the issues many of us are having.

Forum notifications simply aren't working properly, subscribing to a thread can lock up on the ability to start threads (hope that's a known issue)... but as for general users they'd be lucky to see notifications at all.  I've not had them from DNN for a long time now! (near a year or so).

Here are some of the relevant forum posts to help your memory:

http://www.dotnetnuke.com/Community/Forums/tabid/795/forumid/7/threadid/214256/scope/posts/Default.aspx
http://www.dotnetnuke.com/Community/Forums/tabid/795/forumid/7/threadid/214608/scope/posts/Default.aspx
http://www.dotnetnuke.com/Community/Forums/tabid/795/forumid/7/threadid/216345/scope/posts/Default.aspx
http://www.dotnetnuke.com/Community/Forums/tabid/795/forumid/7/threadid/219118/scope/posts/Default.aspx
http://www.dotnetnuke.com/Community/Forums/tabid/795/forumid/7/threadid/248276/scope/posts/Default.aspx
http://www.dotnetnuke.com/Community/Forums/tabid/795/forumid/7/threadid/252337/scope/posts/Default.aspx

I spent weeks trying to sort it before you said it was a known bug.  And that was back in March this year (I was away the 3 months prior to this).

I, and others can appreciate the work involved... but a lot of us have been waiting over half a year to see a bug fix in the module. Bit of a worry if now we're being told it's not a known issue.

David,

on http://www.dotnetnuke.com/Community/Forums/tabid/795/forumid/7/threadid/214256/scope/posts/Default.aspx

I can't see that any is relatedto the forum module, looks like a other issue!  Also all PrimayKey issues are not from the Forum Module.   But on the starting of the thread I can see the Forum 04.03.00 was not error free installed or was not installed!  This could happend on missing permissions to teh physical folders or wrong IIS settings! The other issues will make me more sure that this is happend there.


http://www.dotnetnuke.com/Community/Forums/tabid/795/forumid/7/threadid/214608/scope/posts/Default.aspx

The e-Mail task table of the forum must be empty if you didn't not have this 2 tasks in the schedule:
DotNetNuke.Modules.Forum.StartEmailQueuedTasks, DotNetNuke.Modules.Forum
DotNetNuke.Modules.Forum.CleanupEmailQueuedTasks, DotNetNuke.Modules.Forum
 
This Tasks starting and cleaning the E-Mail notifications.  If you installed the Forum Module with a error it can seam this tasks are not i the Schedule.  Also you have manual enable this 2 Tasks!  If I understand you right on that thread you run in notifcation problems with oter modules too, this looks like a problem with the SMTP settings or your DNN install.

http://www.dotnetnuke.com/Community/Forums/tabid/795/forumid/7/threadid/216345/scope/posts/Default.aspx
In this post I have aswered that the subscription on Thread/Post side have a known bug, thats the same I post in this thead.  It is fixed in the next version.  But it is not availible as a seperate fix. It was included in the 4.4.4 version but it failed the release progress. 

http://www.dotnetnuke.com/Community/Forums/tabid/795/forumid/7/threadid/219118/scope/posts/Default.aspx
Same issue as below.

http://www.dotnetnuke.com/Community/Forums/tabid/795/forumid/7/threadid/248276/scope/posts/Default.aspx
Same as bellow.

http://www.dotnetnuke.com/Community/Forums/tabid/795/forumid/7/threadid/252337/scope/posts/Default.aspx
The Question when it will be released I cant aswered to you.  This only you can get from the Team Lead. 

All Links you showed up, are about the thread or post notification, this bug is complete fixed, but can only give outwith the new version.  A new version can only submitted to the relese progess if it is stable and secure.  DNN have any QA prgogress for releases, which is a minimum that the module must passed.

The Forum module is the bigest DNN Project and have many of code, so it needs time to bring a new versio on the road.  The new version is not only a bug fix, it included many Enhancemands an code change.

If you have generall probem with notification feel free to post here, but on this one I can't help you.  I use the Notefication forum behavior to send notification to my users.  This is working.  Also the Moderator Notification is working.  The issue is only on the Post/Thread notefication, and a soution s done, but come first out with the next release.  I didn't want to discuss why I give not a release date, about I can't give it.

Regards
Matthias
DNN MVP
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10/1/2008 7:40 AM
 
David Toohey


Joined: 1/30/2007
Posts: 690

Are Post notifications something different to what I am talking about?

Matthias Schlomann wrote

on http://www.dotnetnuke.com/Community/Forums/tabid/795/forumid/7/threadid/214256/scope/posts/Default.aspx

I can't see that any is relatedto the forum module, looks like a other issue!  Also all PrimayKey issues are not from the Forum Module.   But on the starting of the thread I can see the Forum 04.03.00 was not error free installed or was not installed!  This could happend on missing permissions to teh physical folders or wrong IIS settings! The other issues will make me more sure that this is happend there.

This is only about Forum Notifications (Notifications of Posts to a Thread).

As you can see I was getting no help... so a lot of this is my (non-programmer/developer) notes trying to get to the bottom... until your post to another thread some weeks later said "There is a known bug with the notification on thread/Post side.  It will be fixed in next version."

So as far as I understand - this issue I am referring to of a bug in notifications on thread posts is known.  Is it known, or not?


Matthias Schlomann wrote

http://www.dotnetnuke.com/Community/Forums/tabid/795/forumid/7/threadid/214608/scope/posts/Default.aspx

The e-Mail task table of the forum must be empty if you didn't not have this 2 tasks in the schedule:
DotNetNuke.Modules.Forum.StartEmailQueuedTasks, DotNetNuke.Modules.Forum
DotNetNuke.Modules.Forum.CleanupEmailQueuedTasks, DotNetNuke.Modules.Forum
 
This Tasks starting and cleaning the E-Mail notifications.  If you installed the Forum Module with a error it can seam this tasks are not i the Schedule.  Also you have manual enable this 2 Tasks!  If I understand you right on that thread you run in notifcation problems with oter modules too, this looks like a problem with the SMTP settings or your DNN install.
 
I'm not clear on what you're saying here... think the double negative ("didn't not") might be throwing me off.
 
The forum email task tables are both currently empty.  Those two tasks are in the schedule as below, and pretty much everything is working perfectly with all emails in the DNN Setup - except Forum notifications for posts, blank delete ones and so on.
 
DotNetNuke.Modules.Forum.StartEmailQueuedTasks, DotNetNuke.Modules.Forum Enabled Every 15 Minutes Every 1 Hour 04/06/2008 02:16:24
DotNetNuke.Modules.Forum.CleanupEmailQueuedTasks, DotNetNuke.Modules.Forum Enabled Every 1 Day Every 1 Day 04/06/2008 09:54:56

Matthias Schlomann wrote

http://www.dotnetnuke.com/Community/Forums/tabid/795/forumid/7/threadid/216345/scope/posts/Default.aspx
In this post I have aswered that the subscription on Thread/Post side have a known bug, thats the same I post in this thead.  It is fixed in the next version.  But it is not availible as a seperate fix. It was included in the 4.4.4 version but it failed the release progress.
 
This is not about subscriptions.  It is about Forum Post Notifications.  The subscription bug is something different. Subscriptions were mentioned here just by John saying they seemed ok, although a little patchy - however, it wasn't the topic being discussed.  This was were you did aknowledge "There is a known bug with the notification on thread/Post side."

Matthias Schlomann wrote
http://www.dotnetnuke.com/Community/Forums/tabid/795/forumid/7/threadid/219118/scope/posts/Default.aspx
Same issue as below.

http://www.dotnetnuke.com/Community/Forums/tabid/795/forumid/7/threadid/248276/scope/posts/Default.aspx
Same as bellow.

http://www.dotnetnuke.com/Community/Forums/tabid/795/forumid/7/threadid/252337/scope/posts/Default.aspx
The Question when it will be released I cant aswered to you.  This only you can get from the Team Lead. 

All Links you showed up, are about the thread or post notification, this bug is complete fixed, but can only give outwith the new version.  A new version can only submitted to the relese progess if it is stable and secure.  DNN have any QA prgogress for releases, which is a minimum that the module must passed.

The Forum module is the bigest DNN Project and have many of code, so it needs time to bring a new versio on the road.  The new version is not only a bug fix, it included many Enhancemands an code change.

If you have generall probem with notification feel free to post here, but on this one I can't help you.  I use the Notefication forum behavior to send notification to my users.  This is working.  Also the Moderator Notification is working.  The issue is only on the Post/Thread notefication, and a soution s done, but come first out with the next release.  I didn't want to discuss why I give not a release date, about I can't give it.

I thought I was always talking about Post notifications?  What else is there?

I do understand the new version has enhancements - another thing that's led to 6+ months delay in a bug fix... and we do appreciate enhancements (though as another post here is saying, not at the expense of timeliness bug patches).

I didn't post here to complain about the issue, merely point to the Op that if he wanted (post) notifications working (what else is there?) with subject headers included... upgrading to the latest Forum version will not fix that.  As I still understand it... he may have a new module that is designed to include a Thread Title in the Post Notification Subject... but it's unlikely they will even be sent out (until the newer 'yet-to-be-released' version is sorted).
 
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10/1/2008 1:54 PM
 
Matthias Schlomann


Joined: 8/10/2003
Posts: 3594

I think to help you it is needet, that I can make anythink clearly, and we have a MSN chat.  It can be that I hae to check permissions and the database tables, spocs, viewes.  My MSN Link is bellow in the post footer!  But I am be away for the next 1 hour !  I hope you have time in a hour or you try it to a other time.  But please note I am from germany so Iam in a other timezone ;)

Regards
Matthias
DNN MVP
www.aarsys.de
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10/2/2008 12:33 AM
 
David Toohey


Joined: 1/30/2007
Posts: 690

Hi Matthias

I will get MSN installed to contact you.  I'm actually in the same timezone (Poland).

Just so you are aware, I've not receive forum post notifications from DNN's own forums all year - the same problem as I've been referring to... and something I know others are also having problems with.  I saw your post here by manually checking, not because I was notified by email.

Thanks

David
 
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10/2/2008 8:44 PM
 
Matthias Schlomann


Joined: 8/10/2003
Posts: 3594

you can try it on friday, it's a free day in gemany.  So I am not on work. ;)

Regards
Matthias
DNN MVP
www.aarsys.de
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