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10/18/2007 3:36 PM
 

Thank you, Mitchell, for your interest and tons of information.

On the login issue, prior to today, I had never touched the login page setting.  It was always "none specified."  Still, the problem occurred.  My host was less proficient with DNN than I am, so I decided to take DNN to a specialist host, and leave all my other apps where they are, for now.  Eventually, we'll move them over to the DNN site.  The other apps are fine without DNN around and run quickly from a link within DNN.  Now, the funny part:  today, I DID change the LOGIN page setting to HOME and broke the Login function by doing so.  I simply assumed HOME had the module installed because, if it's not in HOME, where is it?  Anyway, my host quickly fixed it and I'm back up.

As for configuring DNN and non-DNN apps, I thought I had done it right.  As in /root/DNN, /root/app2, /root/app3, etc..  I never had the other apps in subfolders below /DNN.  Still, they did not play well together.  Until I'm smarter, they'll not be within 3000 miles of one another.

Yes, I do want a keep-alive program.  Do you have a favorite?  I understand there are a few free ones out there.  I also took a quick look at one that costs, maybe, 10 cents per day?  The latter says theirs is the way to go because all the others are installed in the .NET app, so what good are they?  Whereas, there's is a remote "nagging" application.

Finally, I do like DNN a lot.  I particularly like the look and feel of it out of the box.  Great colors, navigation, etc..  So ... why have so many other users gone to such trouble to disguise the fact that they're using DNN?   Corporate culture and colors?   I've seen several sample sites where they've taken a great looking skin (native DNN) and ended up with what looks to me like the original ugly website.  Go figure.

Thanks again for spending time on our startup issues, here.

 
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10/18/2007 6:09 PM
 

In this case you've caused the problem I'm afraid. To login a page must have a login module or use the default login settings. By setting the login page to a page (in this case the home page) without a login module you've made it impossible (by default) to login. You can work around this by using the technique @ http://blogs.snapsis.com/PermaLink,guid,3078311e-6925-4c03-8243-d1b9c8a11906.aspx

Cathal


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10/18/2007 6:50 PM
 

Thanks cathal .... yes, I know that this time it's my doing.  Thought I was being smart.  Afterall, if the module isn't in HOME out of the box, there's no other place it could be, right?  Wrong.  It's in a page named "NONE SPECIFIED."  Anyway, we're in business again.  And, yes, I read that blog when exchanging tales of woe with another poor soul having the same problem.  I'm still wondering how I lost LOGIN all those prior times.  I really hadn't touched a thing except, perhaps, to test a couple of links and change a couple of basic built-in skins just to see the different look and feel.  In short, I lost it 4 times without really having used DNN.  It's been suggested that the fault probably lies with my former hosting service's web/webfarm settings (whatever that means).

Thanks for sticking with me.

 
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10/18/2007 8:16 PM
 

lousaint wrote

Thank you, Mitchell, for your interest and tons of information.

On the login issue, prior to today, I had never touched the login page setting.  It was always "none specified."  Still, the problem occurred.  My host was less proficient with DNN than I am, so I decided to take DNN to a specialist host, and leave all my other apps where they are, for now.  Eventually, we'll move them over to the DNN site.  The other apps are fine without DNN around and run quickly from a link within DNN.  Now, the funny part:  today, I DID change the LOGIN page setting to HOME and broke the Login function by doing so.  I simply assumed HOME had the module installed because, if it's not in HOME, where is it?  Anyway, my host quickly fixed it and I'm back up.

As for configuring DNN and non-DNN apps, I thought I had done it right.  As in /root/DNN, /root/app2, /root/app3, etc..  I never had the other apps in subfolders below /DNN.  Still, they did not play well together.  Until I'm smarter, they'll not be within 3000 miles of one another.

Yes, I do want a keep-alive program.  Do you have a favorite?  I understand there are a few free ones out there.  I also took a quick look at one that costs, maybe, 10 cents per day?  The latter says theirs is the way to go because all the others are installed in the .NET app, so what good are they?  Whereas, there's is a remote "nagging" application.

Finally, I do like DNN a lot.  I particularly like the look and feel of it out of the box.  Great colors, navigation, etc..  So ... why have so many other users gone to such trouble to disguise the fact that they're using DNN?   Corporate culture and colors?   I've seen several sample sites where they've taken a great looking skin (native DNN) and ended up with what looks to me like the original ugly website.  Go figure.

Thanks again for spending time on our startup issues, here.

Regarding keep alive services if you are going to pay for it, I would recommend Pingdom.com as they have been pretty good the times I have worked with them.


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10/25/2007 7:57 PM
 

Another 'keep alive' crowd you could consider are http://host-tracker.com/.  The've just started corporate charges, but one off sites should be fine.  You can configure the system to ping your site 5 - 10 - 15 - 30 or 60 minutes etc.  If it can't connect from the initital server, it can then try connecting to your site from about 50 hosting providers around the globe (to ensure the connection break is not their end).  Then each month you're sent an email notifiying your uptime etc.  If the service ever finds your site offline, it'll send you an email to say your site's down, and a further email when it goes back online.

Quite handy.

Cheers,

Reuben.


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