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12/30/2007 5:47 AM
 

Having upgraded from 4.6.2 to 4.7.0 and having endured the trauma of the File synch error that wipes out folder permissions leaving the site without images, I decided to create a parallel site from scratch using a clean 4.7.0 install.  Both logs suggested that the installation had taked place successfully.

I discovered that 'permissions' entries were unexpectedly treated quite differently.

The upgrade version contains a 'filter by group' box under site settings and module settings, while the fresh install does not, for example.

There appears to be a 'Gotcha' here if we can't rely on upgrades...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
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12/30/2007 8:41 AM
 

afaik the filter by group box only displays if there are actually security role groups defined. Maybe you created a rolegroup in your fresh install and you didnt in your upgrade version.

You can be sure that an upgraded dnn version has the same features as a fresh install.

however..... about relying on things.... there are not many things in life you can rely on, the common saying is (where i live anyway) that you can rely on 3 things: you were born, you pay taxes and you will die.


Erik van Ballegoij, Former DNN Corp. Employee and DNN Expert

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12/30/2007 11:22 AM
 

Thanks Erik,

I discovered that the filter box appeared just after posting the note, when I created a rolegroup.

As far as I can tell the two versions match now. Thanks for pointing out the dynamics.

Uncertainty keeps us on our toes and challenges us!

It's a matter of confidence, or lack of it, both in the product and in ourselves.  The upgraded site created several days of work and worry when the file sync error appeared.

Restoring from backup is going backwards and only delays going forwards again. Only really good if we've really lost it.  Finding the cause and its fix is progress!

With the filesync issue switching off the scheduler permits the site to work, but may only be masking weaknesses.

If it's broken, can it be mended? Is it more economic to mend or replace?

A clean install may still have the potential to break. The problem may be latent in the earlier version, so restoring from backup may not help.

Various sources advocate backing up before upgrading. Surely a must. One step further and backup each significant portion of work.

Some say test the backup and upgrade on a localhost. Great, but it's a different environment which may not show up problems, especially ones to do with permissions, so we can't rely on it. 

Gouda cheese, on the other hand, is quite different. When it looks good on the outside and smells right, we can rely on it tasting great.

 

 

 

 
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12/30/2007 4:55 PM
 

David Taylor wrote

Some say test the backup and upgrade on a localhost. Great, but it's a different environment which may not show up problems, especially ones to do with permissions, so we can't rely on it. 

Backup and then restore to the remote host, then apply the upgrade to that. If the upgrade goes well and there are no problems then I can plan for a brief outage and repeat the procedure on the main portal. This gives me plenty of time to check for problems with the site running in the right environment... it's also quick enough to be done when testing modules or other small changes.

Rob

 
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