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HomeHomeOur CommunityOur CommunityGeneral Discuss...General Discuss...Why was "Web" option added to Search?Why was "Web" option added to Search?
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1/11/2008 1:29 PM
 

Too bad there isn't an open source search engine written in .Net that could partner with DNN.  This search on Google didn't bring back any promising results so far.

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22open+source%22+%22.net%22+%22search+engine%22


Will Strohl

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DNN experts since 2003
Official provider of the Hotcakes Commerce Cloud and SLA support
 
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1/11/2008 4:43 PM
 

hismightiness wrote

This will not exactly answer you question, but it may address some issues you might be facing, as well as add at least a little more insight into it.

*EDIT*  Hmmm...  My link never showed up!

http://www.dotnetnuke.com/Community/Blogs/tabid/825/EntryID/1452/Default.aspx

because his hismightiness of dnn wanted it...    I think the forum debate that followed showed that everybody wanted a way to turn it off ..   there was no discussion (public) of the possibility, it just showed up in a release...  boom.

 

 
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1/13/2008 1:22 PM
 

Joseph Sak wrote

Now we're going to have a ton of new web sites out there built by people who don't know this is a usability issue, with this option enabled on their search boxes.

With apologies to Jakob Nielsen, he is often proved wrong with his "rules."  A decade ago everyone suddenly revamped their web sites to meet the "3 click rule" which isn't even an option in most sites now.  Users have an amazing ability to decide what they like on their own.

That said, your point above is likely the real issue.  The web/site option is easily turned off, and there's no requirement to use the DNN search functions to begin with.  There are many reasons the DNN search is poor, but the major one is it does a simple database search, assuming anything outside the database really isn't wanted.  That was probably the case in simple DNN sites in the beginning, but there's no reason to store 100,000 PDF files in the database when the file system works fine, and searching a PDF in the database is problematic at best.

There is a technology that works fine for searching DNN sites, and it's to use an outside search that spiders the site.  Google is the natural choice for many, but not the only choice.  A move by DNN to incorporate a database search and a file-based search might work, ala SharePoint, or better is a search engine that can spider the site.

Jeff

 
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1/13/2008 9:42 PM
 

There simply is not enough time in the day to do all of the things you would like to do.  Search was implemented using a provider pattern precisely to enable those more "search-savvy" to do something interesting.  We've seen some commercial implementations of new search providers, but to date nobody has offered to contribute anything to the core platform.  We are painfully aware of the shortcomings in the current search mechanism, but it also has a lot of potential built into it including the ability to combine providers which would handle file, image, or any other kind of search you can think of.   If we could snap our fingers and have a better search provider, we would do that... contributors welcome!

Cheers


Scott Willhite, Co-Founder DNN

"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly... what is essential is invisible to the eye. "
~ Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

 
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2/5/2008 6:29 PM
 

Jeff Cochran wrote

The web/site option is easily turned off, and there's no requirement to use the DNN search functions to begin with. 

How is it turned off?  I've looked through the documentation, but don't see the option referenced.

 

 
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