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2/15/2006 7:22 PM
 
I need to make some DNN sites more compliant with accessibility guidelines.

I did a search on 'accessibility' in the subject in these forms: no threads were returned at all.

I notice that the skins I've tried provide fixed pixel font sizes, so a visitor cannot change the size of fonts in the browser.

Is accessibility considered the responsibility of the skin makers?

Is accessibility a concern to the DNN community?

Is it important enough to warrant a forum of it's own, or if not, where is the appropriate place to discuss accessibility issues.

If there are accessibility resources for DNN, can someone point me to them?
 
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2/16/2006 8:44 AM
 
Accessibility can be a very touchy subject; especially to a tool that is so dependant upon third party plug-ins, like DNN. I can say that the DNN core/project teams typically strive to meet accessibility guidelines; but this is obviously on a project-by-project basis. Because of this, I don't see an accessibility forum being appropriate. Instead, when you see accessibility issues, bring them up in the most appropriate forum (i.e. specific project forum or the general for core issues) to discuss and post them in Gemini to ensure we (the core/project teams) are aware of the problems and get them fixed in a timely manner. Probably the best answer would be to see if anything exists in Gemini, add it if it doesn't, and then comment about it in the forums with a link to the issue in Gemini. Then, everyone can discuss it as needed. Plus, it makes project leads aware that public issues need to be moved to the respective forums.

Michael Flanakin | Microsoft Consulting Services
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2/17/2006 1:17 AM
 

By way of a little history...

Back around version 1.0.9, we worked extensively with some good folks down at University of Texas at El Paso ( UTEP ).  You may recognize the reference from our Guided Tour ( among other places ).  We went through an extensive exercise at that time to get DNN to be Bobby508 compliant.  That effort was led on our side by Bruce Hopkins.

There are certain characteristics of .Net that make it very challenging to reach any compliance ( whether that is 508, XHTML, etc ).  Because certain controls, etc. actually generate HTML that cannot be modified ( without great difficulty ).  So our implementation, even at that time, was not perfect.. but it was pretty darn good ( with the exception of the Solpart menu, in those days... which has greatly improved ).

I don't think that it would be fair to say this is not "important" to us.  And the largest part of the burden has definitely shifted down to the skin designer.  But there are probably a number of things we could be doing to help preserve the ABILITY to reach Bobby compliance in module developers, where the other large piece of the issue lies.  I am imagining things like coding standards for modules that make it possible to stylize output HTML for compliance ( if so desired ), even if its not mandated out of the box.

If there were a champion to this cause... and mind you that championing requires significant personal time / effort... prioritization of this could change.  But without that, its simply a question of resource availability for us.  We definitely support the spirit of the ADA compliance guidelines.


Scott Willhite, Co-Founder DNN

"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly... what is essential is invisible to the eye. "
~ Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

 
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