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3/13/2008 11:44 AM
 

Hello:

I have been using the Gallery module without major problems in DNN 4.7 until a few days ago when I added a new album.  At this time I decided to rename some of the other albums (the title, the directory stayed the same) to see if I could get them to sort in a better way.  Since then, some of the albums show with no styles whatsoever.  And I don't mean the album itself, I'm talking about the whole page, since the Gallery module adds its styles at the beginning of the page.  You can see the gallery in action at this link.  If you open the albums one by one you should see what I'm talking about, well, maybe.  The kicker is that it works fine in Firefox 2.0.0.12, the problem so far only happens in IE7.  I have tested it with and without Friendly URLs, I made the change to the ControlPager.ascx file, recreated the Metadata files, IISReset after each of these steps, and nothing works.  What is going on???  It was working great before.

And yes, I know the Gallery is Beta, I'm fully aware of that, how can you miss it, it has only been in beta for what?  Two years?

Carlos

 

 
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3/14/2008 12:30 AM
 

The Gallery Project Team was down for a while.  And if you have read some posts here, you see a new Team was created.  Also think of this is not a comercial application it is Open Source, and the teams working in his holliday.

The new Team is complete since view months and ist working hard on the first release.  So wait for it. 

To your Page problem it looks like more a skin problem as a problem from the Gallery Module.

 
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3/14/2008 10:40 AM
 

Matthias:

Thank you for the post.  Regarding my problem with the Gallery, I disagree it is a skin problem.  Remember that the Gallery was working perfectly fine, all albums, before I decided to change some of the album names, all through the interface.  I thought it was related to an old issue where spaces in the names would mess things up but after changing the names again with no spaces, rebooting the server, and clearing up the browser cache, some albums still look bad.  I also compared the rendered HTML from IE7 and Firefox (where all albums work fine) and the difference is MAJOR.  The version from IE7 is missing big portions, all related to the definition of styles.  Again, all this was working fine before.  The module is failing to process those albums properly for some reason.

Regarding the support to the Gallery Module and your reminder about this being open source and to quote you "So wait for it".  You know what?  That argument is less valid and irrelevant every day, specially with DNN, may not be so for other open source projects.  DNN is now backed by a corporation that is doing major PR so that institutions and consultants like myself take them seriously enough to start using their product (DNN) for real business applications.  This is not intended for hobbyists any more.  We are here in the trenches also pushing DNN to our customers because we believe in it.  You may not know my record but I have been working with DNN since version 1.x and I have been pretty vocal about how mismanaged the Gallery Module effort has been.  Not you, but in the past the Gallery project was in limbo and requests for status were totally ignored.  I had a simple request for a situation report unanswered for months and nobody cared about talking about it until I incrementally raised the tone of my posts.  Remember that this was after a couple of months of waiting just for a simple status report.  I also said along the way that DNN has lost a lot of people that needed a photo album and went elsewhere for a solution, again, people out here are implementing real solutions with DNN, and not for family vacation albums.  I for instance manage a Web site for a not for profit sports club that needs the pictures to try to attract athletes and donors.  Right now I'm developing an Intranet application based on DNN for another customer.

I totally understand the nature of the beast and that the people working on this don't get paid, and I have also managed major software development projects, so I know what can go wrong.  But the "it's open source put up with it or leave it" tone is an insult to me and others that use DNN and are actually patient about all this, you also have to understand what is the new purpose of the DNN corporation and the fact that some of us do take the product seriously.  Maybe you have to rethink your involvement in the project and realize that you are not working in a hobby type of open source project and that your constituency have the right to expect quality and timely deliverables, even if it is open source, otherwise why bother.  And by the way, I do believe I contribute plenty to the DNN community by helping in the Forums whenever I can and spreading the word, I propose DNN as a solution every chance I get, so I hope you don't use the other overused argument that is thrown around whenever something doesn't go right (goes like, you don't like it, get involved), well, I am very involved already, and I also do it for free.

And I have no problem waiting a little longer for the Gallery if it works right, after all, the community have been waiting for years to have a stable, usable product.  It is your tone I have a problem with.  Just because you are working in the project now doesn't give you the right to talk to me (us) with such condescendence.

Carlos

 

 

 
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3/14/2008 1:51 PM
 

I do not understanding that a Beta Version is using for a production side. The Module was for a long time integrated for the avatars of the Forum Module.  It was at the first outcome a 3rd parity Module.  About the Forum Team did not have the time to work on both Module and the Gallery was outsourcing from the Forum Module, the Gallery project was down. 

The Team have now a new Project Lead and also since Februar a new Project Team, and they working hard to fix a lot of known issues.  We had planed beginning with the working in Januar, but to get the Team Members have need a little more time, so that we are a little late now.  The plan was to going release in this quarter, but it looks for me more to beginning of the 2nd quarter

To me personaly:

I am in the Gallery Team since last year.  I am not a developer yet, and doing the QA testing in the Gallery Team with a little testing team. 

About my comments in this Forum, you must understanding the repeated answers takes to us time which we needed for the next release.   So I am very unhappy to this, and some times I post it.   I see a Forum so that if I have a problem I first search the forum, and then if I don't find the answer I posting.  This is posted to the forum guidlines too, if I remember.

Also I am not very good in english language, and some times I am sure I did not find the right words.  I do my best to learn it.  But I think the most do understanding what I mean.

 

 
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3/14/2008 1:59 PM
 

To your issue, I am sure it is not a issue from the original Gallery Module.  The Module do not override any containers or skins.  I think it have to do with your changes.  The Gallery Module have not a DAL yet, so there is nothing without some settings in the Database.  It is Using XML at time to store and get Data for the Gallery.  It is also using Templates that do not overriding some containers or skins.

I think if you only have change the Folder names the must be a other point where you have check this too.  Personaly I have running the Gallery on 2 instances too and it worked well without changes on the folders or the code.  Only what I have done is disable the FriendlyUrls.

So it must be some with your changes.

 
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