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5/18/2008 3:17 PM
 

I had occasion to edit an existing event.

The date at which the event was ending, May 21, was incorrect - it should have been May 31. I opened the event for editing and afte making the changes I looked at the month view only to see that the days from now (the 17th) until the 21st had two entries for this event ... I eventually had to delete them and re-enter from the start. Thats when I noticed the weirdness ...

When you hover over the event there is a popup window showing the contents of the description. The first line in the box is the event span ... the start date/time and the end date/time. In both the popup and the event detail my event says it goes from 10 AM to 4PM on the same day. But the event actually is a recurring event that takes place over many weeks. Each day it appears in reports that it is the only day the event is happening on.

Another event in the same month I'm viewing happens over 3 days and its detail says it goes from May 17 to May 19 ... so what's different?

The event that reports single days at a time is a Recurring event and the one that reports multiple days is a one time event ... how strange.

My preference would be to have the recurring event report the complete span of dates and NOT just one day at a time.

So how do I get it to do that?

I tried the simple fix of changing the end date (at the top of the event edit page) to May 31st. The bottom section has it as a weekly recurring event that ends on May 31st.

This 'fixed' my start/end display requirement but what also happens is the event also appears on every day of the period. But the host location, an art gallery, is not open on Sunday and Monday.

When the event's end date was the same as it's start date it only appeared on the days specified in the pattern in the 'weekly event' part of the recurring events section.

So I wonder how to fix this ... is this behaviour by design? or is this one more thing to be addressed?

For the moment I'm putting a BOLD message in the description stating the actual span of the event but it's just a workaround. I worry that a cursory glance at the popup or detail of the event will result in the visitor having a mistaken idea of when it's over. Not to mention it makes us look rather inept ... :(

I saw the 'hamburger day' post that talked about event exclusion patterns and I'd put in my 2 cents for an exclusion pattern on one time events that span multiple days. Maybe two: one for days of the week or an alternative with a list of actual dates. I'm not averse to filling in a list if my event displays unambiguously correct.

Or, and this might be more complicated, if I could fill in the operating days of the location the event takes place in and have that act as a final filter for days that the event appears in, in the calendar and lists.

 

 
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5/18/2008 4:26 PM
 

Currently what you see is by design. Each recurrence of an event is treated as a single event and display of that event in all views shows the start and end date of each individual recurrence. On the detail view, it also shows the recurrence pattern of the event.

So:

  • A single multi-day event will show the start and end of the single event
  • A recurring multi-day event will show the start and end of each recurrence of the event as if it was multiple single events

It is the intention in the next release to make this even more embedded into the module. Currently each of the examples above is one record in the database, meaning could not delete one day out of a series to allow for 'Hamburger Day' e.g. every 21st day. We hope in version 4.1.0 to split this down so each recurrence is a record in the database, so they can be manipulated individually - including delete, having different text, different start time, etc

However, I don't think this will meet your need, since what you are asking for is a single event with some missing days (Sunday/Monday). I could see a simple template as being possible to omit days, but I'm not sure about having all the options you suggest. The recurrence coding in this module is already horribly complex!!

One possible option is to improve on the display of recurrence in the detail view, and possibly add an option to display this in the pop-up tooltip. Another possibility - We do intend to add templating of various elements of the display, and this could be another option, allowing you to specify whether it shows the start/end of the single occurence, or the start/end of the whole recurrence set. See here for some details - EVT-5678.

Thoughts?

Roger


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5/19/2008 1:11 AM
 

Hmm ... can only speculate in circles with no experience in the coding end of this.

I'm a newbie to dnn and have no real experience skinning but I'll learn templating if that's what it takes if I have to.
The idea of being able to remove event days directly is attractive.

And I can see possibly having to specifiy that on certain days the actual hours are different due to host site particulars like holidays or cooperative resource scheduling.

I'll take one of all of the above with a 'Hamburger Day' please.
And could I get expression evaluation and literal string embeds too?

Seriously though, the items you suggest sound like a reasonable next stage for my requirements for now and I'll make do until they're available.

I can imagine the complexity vs flexiblity issues ...

 
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