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3/13/2006 9:40 PM
 

First, the doc is not outdated at all it is alway up to date unless a new release happens, then it may be a week or so off and this has been the case thus far. The install is the same for 3.x. or 4.x, doesn't matter when it comes to the module and pay only attention to the module version here.

As for the 'cursor' issue, this is a difference between Firefox and IE. This has something to do w/ the SetFocus function which puts the cursor in the subject textbox.

It is possible your host didn't give you Super User (or host) access and there is nothing any of us can do except tell you to speak w/ your host about it.

 


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3/15/2006 2:17 PM
 
To  be fair, the forum installation documentation says simply to "upload THE file..." and does not actually mention which of the many possible files to upload. As a general rule, 'zip' files containing code are traditionally un-zipped prior to doing anything with them and it is to be expected that people will do so prior to uploading/installing in DNN.

It is actually a very nice feature that the zip file can be uploaded as-is and will un-zip and install automatically. One additional sentence in the documentation, explaining this behavior, would save a lot of unnecessary confusion. I know, because this one bit me and reading the docs several times did not help.


 
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3/15/2006 4:04 PM
 

To be fair too, look at my post above, it helps if you read it. Module documentation has no reason to supply information that the developer/end user is expected to know, especially since it is provided in an installation guide. ALL modules are expected to work this way. and it's a key feature of DNN. I wouldn't expect the Core developers to take a step back and "undo" this functionality.


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3/15/2006 4:56 PM
 
I assure you that I did read your post in its entirety (twice) prior to replying. If there is documentation explaining that all modules are uploaded as zip files, I didn't see it. If such documentation does exist, then a simple "cut'n'paste" or hyperlink in the module installation instructions would be even easier/simpler than my suggestion of adding one sentence.

Reading my previous post, you will note that I did say it was a very nice feature. The fact that it is an unexpected nice feature may be what causes some confusion. You must agree that it is a bit unusual, and certainly was not a feature the the various php apps, publishing tools, website upload systems, etc. that I was accustomed to.

I don't doubt that people who have been using DNN for a long time will already know all these little tricks, but us noobs do not. That does not mean we are stupid or that our suggestions have no value. Nor does it indicate that we fail to read before posting or didn't go through the module installation instructions several times. Nor does it mean that anyone is suggesting the undoing of the feature.

Put the docs in a wiki, or make them editable some other way, and I'll be happy to simply make appropriate edits as I run across them, and not annoy anyone. I write similar documentation as part of my job anyway, so it's no bother. I'm sure that others will do the same.

Is it my imagination, or are some people on this forum a wee bit defensive or overly sensitive? DNN is a helluva fine thing, but that doesn't mean it's easy to figure out or that the documentation can't benefit from the immediate hand-on experience of fresh eyes.

(I don't expect you to publish this in the forum, it being somewhat off-topic, but I doubt I am the only one who is curious about the "overly-sensitive" thing.)


 
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3/15/2006 5:09 PM
 

I am not sure who you were looking to confront kgw, I approved your post even though it is somewhat off topic because I want you to see its not all about being overly sensitive here.

I think some of the problem here is this module is one of the very few with very clearly defined end user and admin documentation. It is available from the same exact spot you downloaded the module from in pdf format. In addition to that, the readme.txt file inside the modules documentation folder does touch on some of the install pre-cautions.

I am not sure what you are trying to resolve  here. I am a bit confused in what exactly you need help with.


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