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8/21/2008 1:45 PM
 

Thanks for trying anyway..I really, really apreciate it....I bought the dotnetnuke book and followed installation instructions the uploaded the skins from salaro...I installed Express 2008 and changed my IIS settings...I did the starter kit....I was so happy how everything looked.....but no one else will ever get to see it I guess.....the salaro files had CSS and psd and all the images so I tried using Dreamweaver and again it looked good but

http://www.neisd.net/churchill/checkthisone.html

still  will not show my background and containers correctly but it's fine when I preview in DW... I took a quickie DNN class (2 hours) in San Antonio this summer at the national computer science teacher convention...everybody really liked it and some were even using it for their whole school.

I even tried when the DNN site was up to save each page as an HTML which sorta worked but not good enough.....the DNN docs assumes everyone is a professional designer...I know 1000's of teachers who would love to use this if there were more precise babysteps for us widiots...(web idiots) ..the school system doesn't give us any money to help out so we have to learn on our own, I prefer for things not to look like cr@p and a little more professional.

Thanks again!!

Robin

 

 
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8/21/2008 7:57 PM
 

Ok I see now. You've actually managed to do a heck of a lot by simply following the instructions. I think that, whilst it is really very admirable that you achieved what you have, it is really the wrong angle to approach it from... unless you're planning on taking over the IT department.

You're correct that DNN assumes people are professionals.. not just as designers, but also as systems engineers. There is a level that DNN pitches itself at where people do not have to be IT or design professionals, and that is at the actual user end of the application. I feel that is where you chould be focussing your efforts in the long run. (You're also a victim of the confused communications here on the DNN website, but that's another story)

The school/s should really be engaging the services of a DNN professional to install and configure portal systems for the teachers to use. You've (again, admirably) taken on all the tasks of the IT systems engineer and a skin developer in order to get DNN running locally... and although it works, it is not something that one can simply tansfer to another IT system by FTP in the manner of the old fashioned static websites. The school may not even use IIS, and if they did, the chance that they would allow someone to install a web application like DNN on it is pretty remote - at least it would be if they had good operating procedures.

I would first check with the IT staff whether or not they would set up a DNN portal system for the school, and then carry out your work on that. Alternatively, and this is useful in situations where there is no useful access to IT services, and/or too many security policies in the way, you can always get a hosted copy of DNN outside the school.

However, for the best management of web services for teachers and other working professionals, I would really suggest purchasing professional IT services or making use of any that you have access to throught the school. DNN and any other system like it will waste months of your time unless you plan on becoming a DNN service provider yourself. There is always a service provider with a price to match almost any budget.

Hope that helps a little

Rob

 
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8/21/2008 8:06 PM
 

p.s. The issue you're having with Dreamweaver and the skins is another can of DNN flavored worms. One can use a tool like Dreamweaver to help create a DNN skin, but it cannot be used to actively produce and text or graphical content on the site. Anythign previewed in DW only vaguely relates to the way DNN ultimately uses the files and displays them via the skins and contaiers system.

I guess I'm trying to make sure that you make a specific choice between the steep learning curve required in order to build DNN portals at the level you're attempting, versus getting a portal system installed and configured where you want to be using it and then simply use it. I don't want to put you off, but I'm just unsure that you're grabbing the right ond of the stick here.

Rob

 
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