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11/18/2008 2:19 PM
 

I am working on extending the DNN search engine to integrate with our Google Search Appliance, and I am wondering the reasoning for the DNN engine being implemented at the module level instead of page (tab) level? I am not criticising or 2nd-guessing, I am looking for some insight into the devs' thought process, so I can determine what my best way to move forward is.

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Vin

 
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11/18/2008 2:37 PM
 

Some modules treat content differently, and will load content based on other parameters, not just based on tabid/moduleid/tabmoduleid. So leaving the "content" up to the modules for indexing was developed to allow ultimate flexibility. At least, this is my assumption ;)

 


Chris Hammond
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11/18/2008 3:33 PM
 

Vin wrote
 

I am working on extending the DNN search engine to integrate with our Google Search Appliance, and I am wondering the reasoning for the DNN engine being implemented at the module level instead of page (tab) level? I am not criticising or 2nd-guessing, I am looking for some insight into the devs' thought process, so I can determine what my best way to move forward is.

Thanks,

Vin

A whole range of reasons.

1. The page knows nothing of the modules. Modules display various bits of information sometimes based on querystring parameters. Page level indexing would need to traverse all links on the page and 'hope' to get all the content out. This would not be a very efficient process IMO.

2. The page knows nothing of the module security settings. So you'd be indexing as what? As admin I guess. So you'd see all content. But then how does the search results page know what is available to the currently authenticated in user?

3. More efficiency. Not all content is interesting to search. This is up to the application designer's discretion of course, but indexing everything that is spewed out could make the search engine top heavy. Already the search tables account for most of the DB size on my site.

I'm pushing this even further. I want search to go content level. That is: every bit of content has security attached to it. But this is a bridge too far at this point in time.

Peter

 


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11/18/2008 3:46 PM
 

Content is generated at the module level (via the ISearchable interface), so needs to be indexed at that level - in addition, permissions can be set as low down as the module, so the search indexer needs to work at that level i.e. it indexes all the content but only returns results based on the correct permission set (in dotnetnuke you could make a page visible to a number of roles, but have different role/user permissions for any modules on that page

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11/19/2008 12:37 PM
 

Chris, Peter, Cathal,

Thanks very much for the information. Makes much more sense to me now. The help is much appreciated!

Vin

 
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