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4/25/2006 5:47 PM
 
I've had quite a few problems setting up 4.03, and I've posted 3x for help, but it seems my posts are being ignored, or maybe, like me,  nobody knows what to do. I followed all the instructions, infact every thing seems to be working fine, but the application wont launch. I documented the entire install, and i'd be happy to post it to help others out, but I wanna get the application working before I do that... And without getting any details for the error..... im lost.
 
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4/25/2006 6:39 PM
 

Well, good!

sorry but, i thought i was the only one having trouble with this! at least im not the only one! I do appreciate the opensourceness, and freeness of this all. but i guess i have much to learn to get this thing to instal correctly.

 
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4/25/2006 9:10 PM
 
I am having the same issues that you are.  I was able to learn and setup DNN3 in about an hour with no snags, but DNN4 has been a nightmare that I have spent every day for the last week trying to install.  My personal website is DNN4.0.2, but it was setup by my hosting commpany and works like a champ.  If I can ever get this working, it will be the foundation for my school district intra-net portal for all staff and students to use.

I think that all we need for instructions is just a couple pages of "do this" then "do this" and "change this" and it will work.  And maybe a seperate one for using SQL 2000, 2005, and 2005 express if there are any mods that are different in the setup for each of these SQL versions.  Possibley a breakdown, one page for the database, one pager for IIS, and one page for the WEB.CONFIG file.  Then we wont have as much clutter to sort through when we just need a to the point method.

I just wanted to thank all of the developers that work hard to make DNN better, the fact that it moved to ASP.NET 2.0 so quickly shows the dedication to keeping cutting edge.

Now, if I can ever get my DNN4 working.
 
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4/26/2006 1:18 AM
 

Yup .. couldn't agree more ....

I don't want to host a site ..... ever .. but what I do want is to be able to develop my site ideas on a local server. Mainly for speed reasons.

IIS is simple enough .. but I got caught in a few traps myself .... (one of which was using firefox) and SQL ... well ... umm.. I am looking at a book now ... errr .... page 5 ....

The thing about the install manual .. is its fine ..until something changes ... you go step by step .. then  oops .. it's not like that on this machine, wham.... dead end.

I will give you an example.

On page 12 it talks about setting file permissions.

Ok .. go to the security tab .... err .. what security tab ... 2 hours later .. after looking around you find out somewhere else that you need to turn off "use simple file permissions" somewhere in the bowels of the computer under vew folders.

The thing is .. I did know about this, but not everyone does .. and it did hold me up .. not for 2 hours .. but I can see someone getting stuck on just that point alone.

The bit that I got stuck on .. and god knows how I actually got around it was the part where it says ....

In Windows 2000/IIS5 the account to use is the {Server}\ASPNET User Account,

in Windows 2003/IIS6 the account is the NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK SERVICE

User Account.

What ? .. first thing .. I am using WinXP .. is that Windows 2000/IIS5 or Windows 2003/IIS6 ? buggered if I know.

I think I am using the first one .. but I don't really know ... ok spend another 1/2 hour looking around .. get a version number of 5.1 off the IIS about box ... OK . .must be the first one right ?

Yer maybe .. then why doesn't my box look like the one in the manual ?

Where is the account called NETWORK SERVICE ? .. don't know .... never did find it ....

Post a question ... get no reply .. skip that part .....

I finally got it working and I didn't even need that bit is the worrying bit ... just how did it work anyway ? .... I didn't enter any connetion strings anywhere ... I didn't do ANY coding .. and it still worked ..

Lucky I guess ... great .. hope I get lucky if I have to do it again ......

There really needs to be a fantastico type install for us dummys .. one that works on a local machine.  Even a better install guide would be a help. Thanks to Mr Nurse for getting it this far .. but it really needs more work and sorry .. but I can't help because I just have not got the skills. I didn't even know what IIS or SQL really was before starting this ... so when someone says .. "make sure your connect string is right" ... well ... errr .. you get the point.

 

 

 

 
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4/26/2006 1:01 PM
 
One of the major problems that I've run into has nothing to do with DNN, but how .NET 2.0 works. .NET 2.0 introduced a lot of problems with web app development. Hopefully, these will be resolved with the new Web App Projects. I'm still hoping for a .NET 2.1 release to come out soon to fix all the problems they added. There are a lot of cool features, but even more work-arounds just to use them... especially in this environment. It honestly seems like Microsoft didn't do enough research before implementing the new release.

Michael Flanakin | Microsoft Consulting Services
www.michaelflanakin.com
 
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