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10/29/2010 1:02 AM
 
I am a new user of DNN and excited about what it might offer us. Of particular note is the flexibility to add content to pages easily. I had also hoped that the marketplace (SnowCapped, etc) would provide access to a wide range of creative talent. However, I am noticing that there's a certain "predictability" to the skins produced by vendors.

I am not a designer so may find this difficult to describe well (and I admit this is somewhat subjective) but  virtually everything I have seen has a "blocky" or tabular characteristic. The "creativity" seems to often be limited to a choice of colors. We want a lot more than that. I am almost getting to the point where I can tell that a web page is a DNN skin. That can't be good.

Here's an example of a site that has a much richer layout: http://www.marthastewartweddings.com/. To my mind that is radically different than anything I've seen available as a skin. Unless someone can pleasantly surprise me, I'd very much doubt that is a DNN skin.

With my limited knowledge of DNN skins, I don't see any particular element of that page that would create a problem for a DNN skin. There is a traditional header (logo, search, ad, etc), a navigation bar and then some well-defined areas (which could be containers in panes in DNN) and a footer. Logically, I believe it's "skin friendly".

When I look around at companies offering DNN skins I don't see anything remotely as well laid out and functional as this. I don't expect an off-the-shelf to be quite so rich. But I had hoped that amongst the various portfolio's I've seen I would see some examples of custom work designers have produced for their customers showing a richer, more aesthetically pleasing experience. The skins I have seen to date (not just those available to purchase but the "showcase" ones) are pretty dull with their layout being predictable and lacking in creativity.

Can anyone point me a skinning vendor that does what might be considered high end skinning work. As a simplification, I don't want to know it's a DNN skin. We are willing to pay a decent buck if we can find the right designer - but we haven't found anyone close yet.

Thanks.

Mark
 
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10/29/2010 1:59 AM
 
DNN Skins are really only limited by the imagination. While there are some practical considerations in designing skins for a CMS that will grow with the client, the DotNetNuke skinning architecture has no real limitations. To me, http://www.marthastewartweddings.com/ is a fairly standard site layout and is fairly boxee and could certainly be built in DNN.

There is a great deal more flexibility when designing a skin for a single site than when designing a skin to be used on many sites. Designing sites that will grow to meet clients future needs without constant redesign does impose some limitations, particularly when it comes to navigation.

Have you checked out dnngallery.com? There are some nice custom designs there.

One of our clients, crmagnetics.com, required us to design his website using a circular layout. While unique, I can't say I'm particularly fond of the design and it certainly imposed limitations when it came to content layout.. We did the best we could given the design requirements dictated by the client.

We just reskinned MissouriPartnership.com and put the new skin live a couple days ago. I'd say it shares some of the elements of the Martha Stewart design and is not a typical DNN design.

There are plenty of great examples of unique and rich DNN-based sites out there, hopefully others will post good examples.

David O'Leary
Efficion Consulting
 
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10/29/2010 2:20 AM
 
Hi

It is true that on SnowCovered the skin designs are not much to talk bout for most of them. I hardly sell on snowcovered just a few because this is not the market fr them. If you are good in skin design you are better to go with either custom designs or sell on the wordpress or joomla skin market much more sales there.

I have seen some very nicely designed custom skins for large sites and I have also converted over some myself. I hardly ever design but I have designers working for me and can pretty much create any design as a DotNetNuke skin, Marthasteward site included

Here are some of my skin conversions from clean to completely over the top

http://www.fdselections.nl/Pensioen/

http://www.schwingsoft.com/

http://www.schwingsoft.com/schwingnuk...

http://www.schwingsoft.com/kinetic/Ho...

http://www.schwingsoft.com/infocus/Ho...

http://www.schwingsoft.com/schwingsites/SchwingStore/tabid/828/Default.aspx


http://www.schwingsoft.com/Default.as...

http://www.schwingsoft.com/Default.as...

http://www.schwingsoft.com/Default.as...

http://www.schwingsoft.com/Default.aspx?alias=www.schwingsoft.com/thecorporation


http://www.schwingsoft.com/Default.as...

http://schwingsoft.com.dnnmax.com/Clients/tabid/89/Default.aspx













 
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10/29/2010 4:18 AM
 
Some design examples we did for our clients:
http://www.mecanoo.nl
http://www.designacademy.nl
http://www.ellenbrouwers.nl

& did you check skins.dotnetnuke.com?
 
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10/29/2010 11:08 AM
 
Thank you for the response. I am encouraged :-)

As I had hoped, the platform itself doesn't seem to impose any specific constraints but finding a good designer with real talent is always a challenge. I'm going to take stock and make contact as appropriate. And if anyone else has pointers please add to the thread - very helpful.

We're looking to locate a designer and start our project within the next 2-3 weeks.

Thanks again everyone.

Mark
 
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