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7/20/2011 8:29 AM
 
Why in the world do you not provide upgrade instructions with your latest revisions. Just take a peak out on the web and you'll find that there are too many people having trouble with this from version to version. I thought that I had finally gotten upgrades down to a science with Mitchel Sellers great articles on backing up and upgrading your DNN site. Matter of fact, I've had three very successful no nonsense upgrades over the past 18 months. Today I attempt to follow Mitchel's awesome instructons again to upgrade my DNN 5.5.1 to 5.6.3. No luck, dang-it. I backed up my database, took a snapshot of my virtual directory contents, then unzipped the upgrade package over my site. Next I crossed my fingers and browsed to http://www.mysite.com/install/install.... Nothing happens, my browser goes blank the status bar flashes green for a second, then it says Done. Not what I expected to see, so I gave it a minute thinking stuff was going on on the server. After a few minutes I tried to browse to my site. I got the login page I expected, so I logged in. I went to the Host Settings page to check the version, and it still says 5.5.1. What gives??? So I tried http://www.mysite.com/install/install... again and saw the same behavior. Eventually I got myself so wrapped around the axel that I couldn't login to my site anymore. So I reverted everything and eventually got my self back to 5.5.1. Now I am at a loss.

Eventually I ran across Chris Hammon's wiki article at http://www.dotnetnuke.com/Resources/W..., which gives instructions to create a new website database, blah, blah. Are you kidding me!!! I run this my site for a boy scout troop. I picked DNN because it gives me a no-nonesense content management system that requires very little support and maintenance. The ISP plan we purchased only allows for one SQL Server database and one root web. Again, I'm at a loss.
 
I know your going to say...but it's free...well so what. I can't believe your Professional version diverges from the free version that greatly in the way of installation and upgrades. What are your coporate customers telling you?  DNN is playing in the big leagues now with it's Professional offering. I can't believe coporate America is going to stand for this. Upgrades should be fast and no non-sense, especially when there are companies out there that I'm sure have dozens, if not 100's of portals. Would it be so difficult to maintain an UpgradingDNN.pdf file somewhere on your support site? I emplore you to consider it. Just take a look on the web at the number of people having trouble with this, and you'll see how many potential DNN Professional customers you your missing out on.

Sorry for the soap box, but as a software professional myself I think I'd be fired if I had a publicly available product that required so much effort to upgrade.
 
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7/20/2011 8:43 AM
 
I can feel your frustaion but honestly since dnn 2 days the upgrades now are pretty much out of the box. As with working with any live enviroment you can always test the upgrade on your local machine as is recommended, etc test upgrade first.  All you would need to do is add localhost into your portal alias, backup your site files and db. Copy to your local machine and as long as your running a version of pro on xp, vista, or Windows 7 any version http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/li... and install a copy of sql express http://www.microsoft.com/sqlserver/en... and follow to wiki on how to attach a db. Then you should find access to the site will work by browsing localhost.  That way you can test and iron any bugs out on upgrades before release to your live site. I've had it before doing a upgrade where the wasn't the upgrade process but more the isp's cough... Wh4l servers being over extended on resouces than it being the upgrade. As i ran it after a restore then reran and it's gone fine. Anyways hope it helps.

Craig
 
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7/20/2011 8:48 AM
 
I had the same issue the last time on a new Windows 7 system, when I forgot to "unblock" the downloaded upgrade package before unzipping, not replacing .dll files in bin folder. please compare .dll files and some admin ascx files, ensuring they got placed properly when overwriting existing files.

Cheers from Germany,
Sebastian Leupold

dnnWerk - The DotNetNuke Experts   German Spoken DotNetNuke User Group

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7/20/2011 9:31 AM
 
I'm sure that there was some amount of operator error, poor choice of tools, and/or ISP flakyness that got in my way. As the site I'm upgrading is not my full time job, I'm just wanting everything to go nice and smooth.

I do have a couple questions:
1. Why does every post regarding upgrade say to turn off "autoupgrade" in web.config.
2. When doing a manually upgrade which url should I use to upgrade, http://mysite/Install.aspx?mode=install, or http://mysite/Install.aspx?mode=installMitchel Sellers says to use mode=install, Chris Hammond says to use mode=upgrade. Which is correct?

Thanks


 
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