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9/25/2012 5:28 PM
 
Jay, I agree that it's difficult at times for "old" users to appreciate when something is difficult/non-intuitive to do as we know the product well. We've tried to address some of this in the 6.x branch, and continue to do so in 7.0 (in fact our UI/UX guy came from a background where he did not know DotNetNuke so was better able to pinpoint pain points as he had a clean slate). However Im sure there is still much to do, please feel free to list any UI/UX suggestions you have (or add them to support.dotnetnuke.com).

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9/25/2012 6:33 PM
 
cathal connolly wrote:
Jay, I agree that it's difficult at times for "old" users to appreciate when something is difficult/non-intuitive to do as we know the product well.

maybe it is time fore DNN veterans like us to hand over any responsibility or focus on this product to the next generation...

 


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9/26/2012 9:59 AM
 
@Mike Ryckman, Thanks for the tip, this is what I do already, but it is not an ideal situation. The admin modules are obviously flagged as admin modules, we should be able to get a view of all modules except the admin modules, it just makes mores sense. When we moved to DNN6, adding modules to a page became more difficult and this difficulty was amplified when the popout menu for adding a module would disappear if you were not careful with your mouse.

Have you ever tried to add a module to a page using an Internet connection that is congested? If the module is not in the Common list, you get server trip to populate to "All" and then the popout goes away more often than not, so you go hover over "Modules" again and make the rest of your choices and add the module. Often I lose the popout 3 times during this process and I am good at this, imagine the frustration for a novice? I only have a few customers that will even attempt to add a module to a page, they just call me.

I like what I am seeing with 7 though, keep up the good work team!
 
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9/26/2012 12:28 PM
 

Hi All, Firstly I want to thank-you for your time and consideration in helping make this a better product! We love to hear your thoughts and recommendations for improvement! I will be using Jays numbered points as a scaffold for my responses; however I will be addressing the responses found later in this thread as well.

  1. This bug had been identified once before but we were unable to reproduce. Could you please provide your browser type and version number in order to help us determine the possible cause.
  2. These have been slated to change for beta (this includes more relevant icons). Terms will be “Common Settings” and “Advanced Settings”.
  3. Based on Gestalt principals, the point made is entirely correct; It would be much more intuitive to align the icon to the left ( assumed relationship based on proximity ); However, this button is quite small, when aligned left this button will sit very close to the anchor text used for the menu items; Consequently this require considerably more focused motor control in order to avoid clicking on the anchor when trying to click on the bookmark ( see Fitts Law ). We do recognize this as a problem and will look at alternative solutions.
  4. This is a valid point and could certainly be added; I also agree that this makes sense in this section however implications of adding this to this section will need to be discussed.
  5. From a UX perspective this makes sense; as this would considerably simplify the UI ; however, the following should be considered:
    • We have a large community that is already using the product; On upgrade the experience will be considerably different and thus affect congruence. If the congruence is too severely affected then usability and UX is irrelevant as they will discontinue using the product. Consequently we are making small moves to improve the UX; 7.x is a move in the right direction.
    • Functions / features have been surfaced in the UI based on priority and expected frequency of use. This is also consistent with how many of our competitors handle these commonly used functions. By putting module management under the edit menu we will be decreasing the findability/ discoverability and and consequently accessibility of modules for new users.
    • While removing these functions from the action menu in the control panel will significantly simplify the UI it will also reduce the affordance of the control panel.
  6. Same response as 5)
  7. Will discuss a solution with the product team
 
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9/26/2012 1:07 PM
 

I've installed latest DNN 7 CTP on Windows 7 x32 virtual machine with SQL Server 2008 R2 Express and IIS 7.0. Looks great, indeed!..

But, I could not see any module actions menu - there are no semi-transparent "Manage" button in / near module header (like one in DNN 6). So, I could not edit HTML module content or manage another module.

"Create new module" dialog in a control panel also not working - then I select it, area is expanded down, but then it not filled up with controls, like Module Name, etc.

Since there are no "Manage" button in Extensions module too, I've uploaded and installed new module through Host > Host Settings > Upload Skin / Container (not very clear way).

Maybe, I expirience a configuration problem - related to AJAX, IIS7 or some other components?.. Or it is just CTP-related things?  
 
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