cathal connolly wrote:
First of all, I think it's important to consider that Evoq is simply a series of solutions that can be plugged into the DNN Framework (Navins image at http://www.dnnsoftware.com/blog/cid/3... shows that well).
As such, there is no difference in many ways between Evoq and any other DNN extension you would buy - though obviously as Evoq is made by DNN Corp staff they can ask for core updates to support use-cases for them (or more normally contribute the code to the DNN Platform), so its probable that the level of integration will be better for Evoq over other extensions. There is absolutely nothing stopping anyone from creating similar packages e.g. if I wanted to I could create a product similar to Evoq Content by writing a document library (or using one such as DMX), and then write modules that use the DNN Platform APIs to add the mobile, search engine extensions, granular permissions (already a free codeplex project) etc. , and I could then pick a price point that I thought would work.
I think it's probably better to think of Evoq as a completely separate entity (one that sponsors lots of developers to work on the DNN Platform). The Evoq team has picked their market and set their prices accordingly - and if those prices are out of your range that's a pity - but if there are enough people like you then I'm sure someone will write something (using the platform API) and sell it (if there's a market a product will inevitably appear) - alternatively if Evoq Social's pricing model turns out to be wrong I'm sure they'll change it and perhaps then it becomes an option.
I know the team spent a long time on the pricing for Evoq social, and so far the price has been very successful (plenty of customers and prospects) - oddly enough one of it's selling points is it's price, very few comparable offerings offer a "low" fixed price, most are much higher (72,000 for jive) or have per user/month pricing points (e.g. $3 per user per month means that if you have more than 300 users then Evoq is "cheap" in relative terms -some of our customers have ten's of thousands of users so for them it's very economical).
One final point, I recommend adding enhancement requests to http://www.dnnsoftware.com/voice - and get people to vote for them. Ordering the list by votes, the first social related item is number 35 on the list - whilst I believe there is a great demand for more social in the DNN Platform (mainly as I'm in the forums a lot), the votes are low for social items which would suggest not everyone feels strongly about it - or think other things are more important.
Community Voice is very important as its where we (the platform team) pick up many of our enhancements from (you can filter on scheduled to see whats coming soon - http://www.dnnsoftware.com/voice/?pag...= (some of these were logged by the platform team as we had early access to it and logged all the things that annoy us or that we know the community already wants - though lots of people voted for them which is the important thing). Whilst that scheduled list is probably more than we can get done in 7.2.0, I encourage you to log ideas (and get votes) so that when we look next we can consider them
The website is completely commercial. You can't find or understand half of what is on it now. Basically, it all points to Call Sales Now!
Go to the home page. I've never seen such bad design. Scroll to read content.
Go to Solutions Overview. Again, I have to scroll to read a paragraph.
http://www.dnnsoftware.com/Platform Honestly, I don't want to even go to the website. Where is the 'Platform' download link. I scroll down that page.. do I click Start or Next Steps or anything? Seems not!
Who did the website.. was it offshored? When I mean offshore, I mean not US. I cannot believe somebody with design this and somebody would pay for it.
On the top right, Try it Free!! Well, Platform is FREE.... where is it!
The suggestions about two websites is accurate. If you don't want to promote what was DNN CE, and you want to hide it and mix it into a commercial marketing website (that well sucks as well), give a place for what we want. Make life easy.
As far as oh we will always have DNN, CE, Platform, etc. free for you. I've been around long before Shaun said there would never be a price on DotNetNuke. :) At least that's true now because it's called Evoq?