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1/30/2014 6:57 PM
 
IMHO the big issue is the diminuation effect on the community - what is the benefit of an open source project w/o a community, which is actively contributing and spreading the word?

Cheers from Germany,
Sebastian Leupold

dnnWerk - The DotNetNuke Experts   German Spoken DotNetNuke User Group

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1/30/2014 7:05 PM
 
Shaun Walker wrote:
The Update Service has been in the DNN platform since 2006. It's purpose is to provide a service to our users to let them know when a new version of the software is available. This is especially important when a security issue is discovered, as there is often a short window of opportunity to upgrade your site to ensure it is adquately protected from malicious intent. We have always been careful to restrict the information passed to those items which are important to the Update Service so that it can provide the appropriate upgrade recommendations to your site. When we released 7.2 in December we introduced a new ability for a user to opt in to our Newsletter during the installation or upgrade process. Folks who opt-in will receive the monthly Community Newsletter which contains a variety of helpful information about products and community support. The mechanism used by the software to capture the email address entered is the Update Service, as it was the best method to ensure the user was added to the newsletter mailing list ( ie. it did not require us to add additional callbacks to the platform ). Users can decide to disable the Update Service at any time either before or after installation - there is a web.config setting that can be used, or it can be done through Host Settings.

I can tell you now that these emails are coming through on a regular basis to our private email and privacy obscured email addresses.  I never signed up for newsletters, they were never part of the build.  Here is how I believe it works..

1 - your update tool identifies the domain address

2 - your staff go and do a whois on the domain 

3 - you send unsolicited emails promoting evoq to the email address of the domain name on the whois results

4 - by NOT getting an 'unsubscribe' option, you have assumed permission to keep marketing

5 - you then send out weekly/fortnightly emails about evoq

I have based this on the way this dnnsoftware spam has come about because, after really looking into this, there no other way you could have these two email addresses.  These emails were never ever opt in, further to that, on clicking the email link regarding the newsletter, there was only one to ask me if I wanted to subscribe, so not even a checked box, but still the email comes in.   I used to compare Wordpress as being the Walmart of software.. you'll use it if you have to but really, for a quality product you use something like DNN, however, this thread is really showing that your push to rid the pesky community from the polished evoq environment is interesting, given that Cathal still asks people to log bugs.  

Just puttin' it out there..  I so much would LOVE to be proven wrong on this.


Nina Meiers My Little Website
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1/30/2014 7:18 PM
 

Nina, I can't confirm. We do have a number of clients, who registered all are sites using our company emailaddress for host user account email and host email and are also registered domain addresses on our names - and neither we nor our clients got any emails besides DNN community newsletter (of course, in order not to violate German privacy law, we did turn off "check for upgrade " and made sure, there are no unauthorized calls to DNN Corp. domains from our servers). There must be another way for the spam hackers to identify your servers.

 


Cheers from Germany,
Sebastian Leupold

dnnWerk - The DotNetNuke Experts   German Spoken DotNetNuke User Group

Speed up your DNN Websites with TurboDNN
 
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1/30/2014 7:33 PM
 
Sebastian Leupold wrote:
IMHO the big issue is the diminuation effect on the community - what is the benefit of an open source project w/o a community, which is actively contributing and spreading the word?

 

I agree, the impression people get on the home page of this site is that DNN is no longer open source.  With statements like "Try DNN Free" that leads people to think DNN is not free since you can only "try" it.  That isn't true, you can go get the DNN Open Source version and use it without restrictions but people don't know that from looking at the home page.  People who are using the DNN open source are leaving because the impression they get is that Evoq is pushing away the DNN Open Source.  So not only are we not getting new users but the existing community is leaving as well.

Evoq really should have started on its own site.  It would be harder to market but at least the community would not fail. 

I think what we need is a site dedicated to the open source version of DNN in order to keep and build the community.  The codeplex site isn't going to build a community and these forums are turning into Evoq forums.

If that is not something DNN corp. wants to invest in then maybe those of us left should get that going ourselves.



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1/30/2014 7:37 PM
 
Chris, pleas be assured, activities are already been taken, please be patient (feel free contacting me for details leupold at dnnwerk.de).

Cheers from Germany,
Sebastian Leupold

dnnWerk - The DotNetNuke Experts   German Spoken DotNetNuke User Group

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