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7/2/2006 8:28 AM
 

I'm pretty sure they have SQL on another box.  Thanks for the info, though.  If this issue comes back I'll definitely keep those questions in mind.


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7/2/2006 9:02 AM
 

I think DNN does use up more memory than standard sites and it's to be expected based on the nature of the product - i.e. it is an application!

However, I do know that there seems to be a level on which a mix of extra traffic, memory leaks and one too many sites seems to push DNN to it's limits.  I know there is someone having some difficulties with their 7,000 rich child/parent potal setup which is causing some grief at the moment.

I ended up buying my way out of the problem - new server - upgraded from 2.4gb hyperthreaded with 2gb of ram, now on a dual core, dual 3.2 xeon processors, with 8gb of ram.  What was done (please excuse my lack of correct teminology - I had this professionally installed) - was analysis on what was going on the server, and raid 5 configuration, with separate drive for sql and web, and backups - 24gb pagesys file and sql is running now with up to 3gb of ram. 

It's been an interesting transistion - the machine still spikes overall very smooth running and much much faster speeds, and absolutely no performance issues which is great. I think I can put up to 12gb in that server.  My next step is to replicate the server and having it purely serving sql - which at the moment I'm running web/sql - not always the best environment but that's what we live with.

It's interesting reading about these problem, solutions, ideas and all the contributions here certainly help us understand dnn and it's requirements further and I know that the core team is also working on optimisation in areas, its' simply not there at the moment.

I think it also depends on what you're running since at the moment - my sql is running on 1.7gb out of the 3gb without a problem, but I can see over time it's going to need more.

Thanks for your input guys - I'm learning alot from everyone else's experiences.

Nina Meiers


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7/2/2006 1:30 PM
 

I decided to do some re-reading and found this link that explains the App Pool and how to tune it to deal with some of these if you can't find the issue right away (work process recycling). 

http://www.developer.com/net/asp/article.php/10917_2245511_2

Jump down to the section :

Recycling Worker Processes and Their Impact on Application State Information

Hopefully for that 4.95 extra, they let you administer the settings.  Other than setup of the app pool, I can't understand why they'd be charging for it - unless again, they are dedicating resources to you in some way. 

 
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7/29/2006 6:33 PM
 
I just emailed them to see how my site has been doing.  The last I heard (after taking off the DNN Search Input/Results) module...the problem has gone away with memory.  Thankfully, I haven't been getting any memory errors.

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My users have been getting logged off out of nowhere.  So I'm wondering if they didn't put a memory limit on my site that kills the application process (which my log shows as starting every ten minutes and sometimes less in many spots).  So I've emailed them to find out more info on how my site has been doing and to see if they have a process that kills my application in place.

We'll see what they say...if they say something.

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7/29/2006 10:07 PM
 
They said they had a limit to kill my site application (recyle the IIS) if my site reached aprox 160MB of memory usage.  They said my site was doing ok and they just took me off the isolated application pool.

Miraculously, my users are no longer getting logged off.

So it would seem my site was hitting that 160MB limit and the IIS was recycling.  That's my guess since they haven't confirmed it.

I'm just hoping that memory.exception error doesn't come back.  I was on the isolated app pool getting the error before I took off the DNN Search and Results module.  I guess this will be a good test to see if those were really the problem children.

For now I'm just going to enjoy being able to do work without getting logged out...

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