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6/15/2014 4:03 AM
 
Tony Henrich wrote:

start with a fresh DNN installation and work things in.



 Tony - the biggest problem with this is sites where you have thousands of members/blog posts/forum posts.  It's massive risk to think you can poke that data into the database and get everything in the right place and lined up correctly.  That makes it effectively impossible.

 

 

 

 


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- Richard
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www.dynamisys.co.uk
 
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6/17/2014 5:16 PM
 
Tony,

You asked if DNN Corp is concerned about upgrade stats. Indeed we are concerned about installation, upgrade, active use, and just about any other metric we can find. Related to your concern, we do upgrade testing of internal sites and customer provided sites (with customer permission, of course) looking carefully at the level of effort involved, speed of upgrade, and ultimately the success or failure of an upgrade. We also test with various 3rd party extensions from the DNN Store and would be happy to test sites from more customers and the community MVP's. It seems that we could never have enough 3rd party stuff (given DNN's extreme customizability), but we can certainly try hard.

With regard to the evolution of the Platform, we have thus far spent lots of effort on adding new capabilities like mobile and social, plus improving usability. In v7.3.0, which released last week, we also spent considerable effort on improving performance while trying to minimize the negative effects of upgrades. We found a few issues that we want to clean up with regard to upgrades (discussed in various blogs and forums), but absolutely made great progress on the performance front. Check out Bruce Chapman's recent real-world experience with his iFinity site. http://www.dnnsoftware.com/community-...

Finally, I've only been with DNN for 3 yrs so lack the lengthy history of some of my associates. However, I've seen many sites upgrade within a major version and hold back on major upgrades pending major changes to their sites. It doesn't seem that they're afraid to upgrade; rather, it's a matter of priorities and where they need to spend their valuable time. For awhile, we were even slow to upgrade our public properties because of having implemented so many custom modules. Fortunately, I'm happy to say that we got past that hurdle and now upgrade on a pretty regular basis so can take advantage of the latest content and social features. And looking at v7.3.0 with its many performance and usability improvements, we want to upgrade as quickly as possible.
 
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6/17/2014 8:36 PM
 

I used to collect stats from version at install-time and I can tell you that most new installs of modules occur on later versions.    I can also tell you that installs tend to cluster around certain releases - for whatever reason.  So anyone on 4.x is probably on 4.9.5, 5.x is likely to be 5.6.2 and 6.x is likely to be on 6.2.1 (IIRC) and & 7 is still settling down - I haven't looked at the stats recently.

So what you can take away from this is that the market for selling modules is never that far behind what the current releases are.

Given the breaking API changes between 6.2 and 7.x I would feel comfortable in recommending that people target 7.x as a minimum version, or, if those don't affect your module, then targeting 6.2.

The older sites tend to be projects that were set up for someone and are just ticking along.  A lot of system-integrator type work seems to be in building a site for someone and then turning them loose.  A lot of these people wouldn't have the foggiest idea what software is running their site.  I know this because I routinely had bewildered people coming to me trying to figure out what on earth was these things that were running their site and the 'guy who built it is no longer around' and so on.

 

TL;DR; - target new modules at newer releases because most module install activity happens at the same time that people are building new sites or at least bringing older ones up to scratch in design/functionality upgrades.

 
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6/18/2014 1:40 PM
 
I have to say that the upgrade process now has never been better in DNN. I haven't and an upgrade go awry in the last 50 tries. Still not as nice as WP, but WP is in a different league at this point.

For performance, I don't think we'll be able to top an optimized 4.9.5 site with pageblaster and a snapsis menu.
 
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6/18/2014 5:22 PM
 
erik hinds wrote:

For performance, I don't think we'll be able to top an optimized 4.9.5 site with pageblaster and a snapsis menu.

 Did you try TurboDNN from http://dnnscript.codeplex.com? I was able to come close to 4.9.5, even with large sites :)


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Sebastian Leupold

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