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7/8/2006 5:13 PM
 
Shane Miller

www.callcenters24x7.com
Joined: 4/2/2005
Posts: 520

Good point, although it's a standard best practice it's still really important to emphasize backing up before performing the procedure.  In addition, another important best practice is testing on another copy of your installation first as well --- especially if you have a complicated and/or mission-critical installation.


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7/8/2006 5:26 PM
 
ZVZ


Joined: 3/13/2006
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Agreed. Backups are essential - regardless of the upgrade method you choose. Also, it takes me all of 5 minutes to upgrade so deleting web.config and taking the site down for that short period of time works fine for me, but depending on your requirements you may want to take the re-route option.
 
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7/8/2006 6:31 PM
 
wildfiction

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Joined: 6/17/2006
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Those are all valid and good ideas but require access to IIS or the ability to create 2 DB's etc. On a standard hosting account you are often limited to a single SQL DB and no IIS access. Another problem is that you may have several domain names point to your installation and so the rename DNS etc. could take some time to do.

I am surprised that the ability to lock a site down is not available from the Host account. Lock down for maintenance. Also, when kicking off the .../Install/Install.aspx command you should be required to enter the host username and password - or at least you should be able to configure the web.config file such that this is a requirement. While the site was locked down the host account should be able to enter the site and check to see how the upgrade went before unlocking the site(s).

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7/8/2006 9:50 PM
 
Shane Miller

www.callcenters24x7.com
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I, too, would love to see some sort of lockdown capability.  I'd like to see the ability to temporarily deny access (optionally, with a configurable message) to selected roles, and for selected portals. 

Shane Miller
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7/9/2006 8:11 AM
 
Jason Honingford

www.portvista.com
Joined: 2/20/2006
Posts: 438
I like the delete web.config idea -- also combine that with setting up your IIS error pages to produce a nice error message. That should solve the problem of people trying to hit specific pages.

However, one of my last shared host upgrades failed, and it took me about 4 hours to delete and upload my entire site using residential cable modem. That's a lot of downtime if you have nowhere to redirect to.

Seems Microsoft should have thought of a better way to do this. This is more specific to .NET apps than anything -- letting a user go on your website in his own session space while you update. DNN has a pretty good upgrade system actually, but I'd welcome improvements.
Jason Honingford - Web & Software Developer
www.PortVista.com
 
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