Ok I am using a .ascx file so if I am understanding correctly there is no html or xml file right?  If that is the case that I have set up a section for the upper menu to reside and have inserted the following line to put the control there;

<td align="left" style="width: 247px; height: 25px" valign="bottom"><dnn:MENU runat="server" id="upperMenu" /></td>

That put the menu where I wanted it which is great.  Thanks for the help so far.  I am still in need of further assistance though if you don't mind.  And maybe I am showing myself that I am more of a newbe at this than I thought but here it goes.

First, how do I change the menu items contained in this second menu, because right now they are the exact copy of what is in the other menu.  Also how would I change where they reference too as it will not be within my webpage?  I have read through the skinning guide and there is a lot of information in this guide but can't seem to find anything that can answer this question.  If I am wrong please let me know where (ex. what page) in the skinning guide I can go to look for this answer if you don't have the time to help that's fine.

Second, The items in the upper menu will not be referenced to my website so I can't just set the icon for that page to affect the icon that will appear in the menu.  So how could I manually point icon path for each item in the menu?  I thought it might be in the sql part of the web site but I thought it unwise to go poking atound in there and try to figure it out. 

Any help on this by anyone would be appreciated.  Thanks, Matt

P.S. - Thanks for lending you assistance on this matter  gvborre.  Your help is appreciated very much.  Thanks.

Sorry for the confusion.  I want the menu to be a drop down menu but the sub menu items will take them off my web site.  I thought I was using dnn:MENU.  And where do I make the {level="Root|Same|Child"} change?  Can I put hyper links into the menu?  That would work not something that I thought of.  I guess they are in a sence hyper links anyways.  So if that is true there has got to be a place where I can Manually enter them in right?  I don't know this all seems very confusing to me.

Do I need to make them 2 seperate menu systems.  One being the SolPartMenu and the other being HomeMenu for example?  And if there is someplace where I can read more about this that would be very helpful as I am sort of lost.  I currently am modifying only the .ascx file is there another file that I could look at other than the skin.css?

Just for clarification right now I have two menu's in my page.

<td align="left" style="width: 247px; height: 15px" valign="top" class="TopMenu"><dnn:MENU runat="server" id="upperMenu" />

<td class="MenuBG"><dnn:MENU runat="server" id="dnnMENU" /></td>

How do I seperate the two menu's so that they look to different things?  Will I have to copy and modify the SolPartMenu.ascx.vb to be able to do what I want?  If that is the case that is fine I would just need some minor direction on how to the proceed with that but I just need to know what direction I need to take.  Thanks for all of your help so far.

Thanks, Matt

I think people are scared away by the sheer number of questions in your last post.

One of your questions is how can I have my two menus display different data.  You can do this in a couple ways, depending on what you want.  Like you mentioned you can have your skin specify a Level=Child (or whatever), or you can specify a StartTabId=(some tabid here).  The skinning document covers how to add properties to your menu through either html + xml or direclty in your ascx.  It appears that you are using an ascx file, so something like

<dnn:MENU runat="server" id="dnnMENU" level="Child"/>

The StartTabId and other topics are discussed in the navigation webcontrols document.

In order to "add hyperlinks" to your menu you can either create a new page (sometimes referred to by the name Tab) and specify the url on its settings to point somewhere else. 

You do have the option to create a completly separate menu bound to an xml file with my free menu module (www.solpart.com) as well.

Sorry I don't have time to answer all your questions, hopefully this gets you started though.