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10/12/2006 6:38 AM
 

So, in short, if you want a quality ecommerce solution, you have to go to a third part ($400 or more) and the DNN store's only target is for those wanting to sell a couple items?

I seriously doubt the DNN store will have any creditability if the DNN site is not dogfooding its own product.

 
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10/12/2006 7:27 AM
 

OK.  Let me be clear.  The DNN version of AspDotNetStorefront is a commercial product that will be sold by a third party vendor.  Just like PortalStore and Catalook.  That company has hired TAG Software to assist in performing the conversion effort.  You can find more information about that product at http://www.aspdotnetstorefront.com .

So what does this have to do with the DNN Store module?  Nothing.  The DNN Store module was created to address a specific set of requirements/use cases.  Over time, Rob and his team will enhance the DNN Store to meet a larger and larger set of requirements and to address specific requests from the community.  The DNN Store module will succeed or fail based on the teams ability to continue developing the module and meeting their community's needs.

Right now the DNN Store does not contain all of the functionality required for the DotNetNuke Marketplace.  We had to make a business decision, just like every other company.  That does not mean that the DNN Store is not a good fit for other customers.  Each user who is looking for an eCommerce solution has to do their own evaluation based on their own requirements to determine what is the best solution for their specific set of circumstances.

Does anyone think that DNN Store, in its present form, could run Amazon.com?  No.  DNN Store must build it's community just like DotNetNuke built the DNN community.  When DotNetNuke was first released, it could not have handled the current DotNetNuke.com site.  It wouldn't scale to our level.  It didn't support skinning. It didn't have the same membership and roles capabilities.  It didn't support search, or logging or scheduling.  These features were added over time.  As new features were added, DotNetNuke was able to handle larger and larger websites.  Large enterprises were able to shift their web sites over to run on DotNetNuke.  This did not happen overnight, and it did not happen with version 1.0.  DNN Store, and virtually every other DotNetNuke module, is in the same position.  They are each projects unto themselves.  They must identify community requirements and continue to extend their projects and their communities.  Over time, DNN Store may grow to the point where it can handle larger eCommerce sites.  Part of the way that it will happen, is that people will decide that the current base is a good starting point and will offer to help the team extend the module.  Maybe one of those people is you Rocky.  Maybe not.


Joe Brinkman
DNN Corp.
 
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10/12/2006 7:57 AM
 

I understand about growing the feature set, just did not know the "market place" would be so demanding that it would have to have a "solution" provided instead of being able to use the DNN store.

It seems like when the DNN store was announced, everyone (at least I did) thought there would be a big push to make decent eCommerce choice for DNN in  a short time. I understand dealing with resources and how many are available to work on a project.  Prior to DNN, when someone came to me needing a eCommerce site, it was using provided using osCommerce as it worked and was free open source. 

Guess I was hoping the need for eCommerce on the market place would accelerate the enhancements to the DNN store speeding up the process.

Thanks for the reply!

 
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10/12/2006 8:40 AM
 

When we first launched the DNN Forums, we shifted our internal communications to DotNetNuke.com.  We slowly added more and more forums until we were ready to move the entire community.  This necessarily required a lot of effort by the forums team to implement needed features, provide stability, and deal with scalability requirements.  This was a lot of pressure to put on that team.  It was not very smart on our part, since all of these teams are volunteer efforts.  Teams need to determine for themselves how much time and effort they can afford to spend and adding additional business requirements from DNN only leads to increased stress and frustration for everyone involved.


Joe Brinkman
DNN Corp.
 
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10/25/2006 12:46 AM
 

I have implemented ASPDNSF for a few customers and its rich feature set rivals the biggest store fronts out there, and ASPDNSF can be gotten at a price point that is acceptable for small business. I have experience with osCommerce too and I feel ASPDNSF is much more flexible and easier to implement, plus it is in ASP.NET, making integration with .NET Applications much more plausible as opposed to osCommerce which is built in PHP.

Where as the technology difference apart, none of the open source solutions or even some of the commercial e-commerce solutions offered for DNN come close to the performance, rich feature set and ease of implementation of ASDNSF...

I think this is a good move for DNN, there will always be a market for DNN Store for the ultra price sensitive customer base, but for some that can spend a bit to get an enterprise level store front, ASPDNSF can be a welcome option, more over there are already other commercial store fronts for DNN out there, so why does ASPDNSF seem to be a threat to the DNN Store project?

Maybe this fear stems from the fact that ASPDNSF is so much better than the existing commercial and OS solutions out there, that it may overshadow the DNN Store project and eventually stiffle its growth... that is a probability... but on the other spectrum this integration will bring in huge support from the ASPDNSF base to DNN and vice versa, resulting in a larger community and an increased customerbase, read --> more bussiness for DNN and ASPDNSF Consultants.

The popularity, acceptance and sucess of any solution will ultimately be determined by market forces and resources available for that solution, which no one can control, but intentionally trying to give growth space to a project which is in its infancy by blocking an enterprise solutions is also not a good business decision.


AGM
infotechniq Inc.
Technology Solutions for Small Business.
www.infotechniq.com

 
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