canamguy wrote
Rob, I couldn't disagree with you more. What you're describing is not how it is in the enterprise world. The trend in content management is to match those GENERATING content directly to the website itself. Workflow is simply a part of the process to get there. But essentially, your telling me that business rules need not apply in our web tools. I can safely say to you now, without a doubt in my tiny little brain, that this is the fastest way to be shown the door in a large enterprise environment. I could not look my clients, who are the ones ASKING for this function, and tell them simply to do it like the old days and hire a web administrator. That is what they have now, sir. And the individual is overworked and underpaid and thinking about quiting unless he/she can work more efficiently and see their kids for dinner more than once/week. This is the story I have heard from client after client after client in the enterprise spectrum. They want tools to make things efficient, but they want accountability and the abilty to audit everything that happens, if they can.
Only a small to medium-sized business, a far majority of the time, couldn't care less if one guy posted all the content and deal with mistake made. There is less at risk, and therefore less to lose. For the enterprise, the exact opposite.
Again, I say this as a IT company trying to meet market demand with a solution to their problems. I would love it if they would just shut up and don't sweat the details about this and that. But that produces, in the end, a jangled mess and crappy site (from a content perspective). That's when they end up calling us for help, looking for a way to control how content gets up there.
You don't have to agree with me. I'm not telling you about trends in content management, I'm just telling you the way it is with DNN in order to save you the cost in time and effort of finding it out yourself - that is the reason I post answers to questions in these forums.
My posts are a knowledgable answer to your questions about DNN, not a debate about corporate workflow ideals. You're not telling me anything about business I don't already know - I've spent my entire corporate career "improving business processes through web technologies" (That's straight from my job description). I'm also the person who insisted that DNN remove the CMS designation 3 years ago - because clearly, to anyone like yourself who knows about workflow, it is not a CMS.
The deal is: DNN is not a self-contained corproate workflow tool. Neither is Visual Studio, neither is DreamWeaver, neither is Photoshop. You can build workflow into DNN via modules, and you can create business workflow incorporating DNN, same as with any application or external procedure, but that's it.
What you appear to be saying is that it would be great if DNN did incorporate tools for creating and recording workflow procedures and tasks. Yes, that would be nice... obviously.
Here's some more advice gained from my experience here: DNN isn't going to change this aspect overnight - in fact in my three years, the basic production workflow has not changed in the slightest. I suggest a better option would be to write up your requirements and then go and assess all of the available systems:
http://www.cmsmatrix.org/
Rob