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11/6/2008 5:00 PM
 

Ah, that iphone.fandango.com site is exactly the kind of thing I am looking for. So the PokerDIY mobile version will be focused on the functionality and be completely stripped down and fast loading.

I tried MobiNuke out - the concept is great and could save a LOT of time. The only thing that concerns me is that if the developer still mantains it and supports it. If I am going to invest all my time in it I would like that assurance (I have contacted him - hoping to hear back soon). Is there a UseerGuide of sorts? I could not find one...

Yes, the next challenge will be making sure the modules work - obviously I can do this for my Smart-Thinker suite but I might have to cut back down to simple HTML boxes for everything else (keep it fast loading and clean).

I guess I don't need a separate iphone.pokerdiy.com redirection for it as it detects what you are using, but it would be cool to have this anyway as it seems to be a upcoming standard and you can test on the browser. I hope there is a flag or something you can attach so that you can view the mobile version in the web browser on MobiNuke. The DNNStuff aggregator module was giving a few issues (it tries to put a module in a tab which is not there etc.) - I really need this to work as a Tabbed Interface would be ideal on a small screen to display data. I'll check with Richard from DNNSTuff.

So it looks like:

  1. Wait to hear back from MobiNuke if this is still a supported, active product
  2. Design/find a iphone optimised skin (I might start with the MN one)
  3. Make a basic menu system (in a module) that only the Mobile browser can see and hide everything else
  4. Start making new pages that are only visible to the iphone (I would want a way of being able to make whole pages invisible to the web/phone, not just modules)

 


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11/6/2008 5:58 PM
 

Nice thread...

(Ignore this post, I'm just marking it for myself so I can find it again.)

 
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11/6/2008 7:02 PM
 

Nice thread indeed.

I DO support mobiNuke and l have a nice roadmap ahead.
Next version you will be able to target a specific device differently or generate and adjust you mobi skin as part of the setup.

I hope to see you guys next week in Las Vegas.

Best regards,
Marian Dumitrascu

 


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11/6/2008 7:19 PM
 

Marian Dumitrascu wrote


I DO support mobiNuke and l have a nice roadmap ahead.

I hope to see you guys next week in Las Vegas.

That is good news! You may want to check your website - you can't log in or register (this is what raised my concerns!). Alas, I wont see you in Las Vegas (I am not a gambling man ;)

 So one of the features I woudl like to see is the ability to change a whole page to show only for one device, not at module level. So my plan is to put a single simple HTML mod on the home page that is only shown to the mobile. This then links to hidden pages that the main site will never see (in my scenario, I think this is a lot easier than going through each page and having modules mixed amongst each other). Where neccessary I can share the same page but I really want to do this at page level. Is your Roadmap public? Where is best place to discuss features - here?

 Also - is it possible to have a switch in the URL (or some other way!) that you can use to look at the other version of the site? For example - if I am doing a web app version of PokerDIY on the iPhone they might ALSO want to browse the normal site. So I could have a link at the bottom saying "Click here to browse the full website" AND I want to see the iphone version on my browser for testing purposes (like iphone.fandango.com).

*edit* Ok, this is how I would like it to work: iphone.pokerdiy.com and www.pokerdiy.mobi go straight away to the mobile site but have a link/icon on the bottom that takes you to the full site at www.pokerdiy.com. MobiNuke would have to then render the content according to the URL - NOT the browser type- this way you could view the other site on the web or the iphone just be nagivating to the different URL. Is this possible?


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11/6/2008 7:43 PM
 

Hi Rodney, got your email email and I'll reply here...

I can add just one or two points.

The MobikNuke guy was very keen when he showed up in the forums and worked out his plans for it. I thought did a great job, but as you say, you have to ensure that it's still in active developement before committing to it. I've had no further experience with it, but have kept it on my lilst of apps to get when the need arises.

I'm a PPC/PPCphone user since about 2000 and use it every day. All in all, the only websites that really are useful are ones that trim their offer down to only the most useful and most relevant content and then display that with just basic links and text content.

Mobile content doesn't have to be interactive. If the true goal of providing a mobile site is to accessorise and as a result further monetise the main site, then the goal is largely met by providing basic one-way informative content.

So for example, regarding your Poker site.. list the top 3 must-have items of content and concentrate on providing just those items on the mobile site. You might have a homepage with a tiny logo and a page of text links leading to a selection of your most worthy RSS content.

You could set something like that up using a blank dnn skin and tie it to a mobile.pokerdiy subdomain, or get the pokerdy.mobi for it.

Now, that may not sound as exciting as a fully interactive mobile site, but it would get your content onto people's phone in a broadly used format, and you could also feed it into existing mobile rss aggregators like mobipocket.com or avantgo.com and potentially reach a much greater audience.

That would probably fulfill 90% of the value of having mobile content and be relatively easy to set up.

If you find that people really like it and want more, then you can perhaps consider what the most vaulable interactive procedures would be for your audience. Again. it may just be a single process such as responding to a request with a yes or no, or it may be as much as carrying out a purchase... I'm not really familair with pokering so I dont' know.

The point I'm really making is that it's only 10% of the work to reach 90% of the mobile site goal but another 90% work to gain the last 10%... so be wary, or at least be very clear on achieving measurable results, before spending a lot of time and money building complex interactivity.

If I were creating a mobile site from one of my sites today, I'd probably start by making it a single page with a single module... one of the RSS modules, and try and get the domain to point to it automatically based on mobile browser detection. I recall that was one of the features discussed for MobiNuke. He was going to make an http module for the purpose. I'm not sure if he did but that would be very useful.

Regarding the menu.. none of the DNN menus need even be on the page. If you wanted to link to another page with another module at some point, just use a text link.

I'm not sure you need to make the mobile pages invisible to the web. When I go to google on my mobile, it opens a special google mobile search tool. There'll be some sort of spec at google for controling that aspect I'm sure. Here's a poker search on it: http://www.google.com/m/search?eosr=on&q=poker&site=mobile&sa=X&oi=blended&ct=more-results Note the little phone icons. Some of these are mobile sites, and others will autodetect on entry.

Let us know how you get on with it all.

Rob

 
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