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10/2/2013 10:36 AM
 

Nina Meiers wrote:

I think I've said enough to rile a few, but guys get a reality check and stop being so defensive over the captain obvious.  DNN is not the same, it was a community project, it's moving away from it, and if you don't like it - find something else. Which based on my tracking of CMS popularity, that's exactly what's happening, and for DNN Corp it means nothing because they are getting sales.

 
Well, therein is the problem... There are no other viable solutions available for a Windows environment.  To move to any other CMS would require a move to the dark side and using a LAMP solution (which a large number of schools are doing).

Since the installation I am running is rather large (approximately 200 portals), any move would be very-very time and work intensive.  This is not something I would desire to do, and it would end up being much more work for me in the long run...  I might have to approach the school board to get funding to invest into the commercial version.

I love DNN, I've used it for the last 8 years on a wide variety of websites.  It is sad to see the community portion of it fading away into the corporate world.

 

 
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10/2/2013 11:23 AM
 

Feel free to upvote 

http://www.dnnsoftware.com/voice/cid/...

 


Chris Hammond
Former DNN Corp Employee, MVP, Core Team Member, Trustee
Christoc.com Software Solutions DotNetNuke Module Development, Upgrades and consulting.
dnnCHAT.com a chat room for DotNetNuke discussions
 
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10/2/2013 5:54 PM
 

Hello,

In an earlier post on this thread I explained the importance of dnn platform to people and how we had reorganised the team in charge of that and put people such as Joe, Charles, Shaun, Erik, myself etc. on it to ensure that the platform improved (as the majority of our sales come from platform users this is simply good business). However it does seem some people are unwilling to take my words at face value, and require actions as proof . Whilst it's still early days, some figures may be of interest:

If you take a look  at https://dnntracker.atlassian.net/brow... you can see the changelogs for releases. Taking a subsection of this shows:

7.0.3 - fixed 55 issues

7.0.4 -fixed 36 issues
7.0.5 - fixed 40 issues

Since we've reorganized the platform team the statistics since then look like:

7.1.0- fixed 94 issues
7.1.1 -fixed  177 issues
7.1.2 - fixed 236 issues

As you can see the amount of issues tackled have increased considerably. In addition we're been much better accepting contributions e.g. http://www.dnnsoftware.com/community-... shows contributions from 17 community members, almost 40 checkins in total).

Furthermore, we've became much more open with the move to github allowing anyone to see what is being worked on (e.g. see https://github.com/dnnsoftware/Dnn.Pl...), and to contribute "pull" requests to improve the ability to contribute more (and larger) contributions. Whilst we're still trialling this with a smaller group you can see the contributions awaiting acceptance at https://github.com/dnnsoftware/Dnn.Pl... (2 to be accepted), and https://github.com/dnnsoftware/Dnn.Pl... shows 10 processed already for 7.2.0.

We've also moved the "roadmap" to being totally open - you can view the list of items for 7.2.0 at https://dnntracker.atlassian.net/brow... -many of these had community/mvp comments/suggestions placed on them during the design phase e.g. https://dnntracker.atlassian.net/brow... design was almost entirely driven by community/MVP.

Hopefully this demonstrates how serious we are about the platform. I have to admit that at times I am confused by some of the comments as to my mind the platform is in a period where we have almost unprecedented community contribution, openness and dialog -it seems some people have made their minds up and are happy to fit any facts to suit their agenda, but for those who are just hoping to see improvements I hope some of this will put your mind to rest.

Note: I am not saying we are perfect by any means, there are many things we can do, and will do, better - but this is a large ship with many components and sometimes it takes time to get everything in line.


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10/2/2013 7:03 PM
 
Did anyone notice Scott Wilhite's response to this post (http://www.dnnsoftware.com/answers/cid/303167)?

I saw these words, and my heart sank. "... Please keep in mind that the previous www.dotnetnuke.com website was literally 10 years old... and had all the baggage from every upgrade that has ever occurred. We started www.dnnsoftware.com from scratch, carefully migrating and reconstrucing the site record by record in order to give us a solid foundation for future enhancement ..."

That means. If you have an old DNN site it's full of cruft and DNN Corp know it. They have cut themselves loose from that. So when they create/test future upgrades it will be against their shiny new interpretation of what a DNN site should be. We can kiss goodbye to much chance of upgrading our sites because DNN Corp will no longer see the cruft *their* upgrade processes have left in *our* sites.

Will talks of record by record reconstruction. We cannot do that ourselves because DNN Corp flatly refuse to document the database structures. We are simply not allowed to know what the data should be.

Best wishes,
- Richard
Agile Development Consultant, Practitioner, and Trainer
www.dynamisys.co.uk
 
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10/2/2013 7:14 PM
 
Richard Howells wrote:
Did anyone notice Scott Wilhite's response to this post (http://www.dnnsoftware.com/answers/cid/303167)?

I saw these words, and my heart sank. "... Please keep in mind that the previous www.dotnetnuke.com website was literally 10 years old... and had all the baggage from every upgrade that has ever occurred. We started www.dnnsoftware.com from scratch, carefully migrating and reconstrucing the site record by record in order to give us a solid foundation for future enhancement ..."

That means. If you have an old DNN site it's full of cruft and DNN Corp know it. They have cut themselves loose from that. So when they create/test future upgrades it will be against their shiny new interpretation of what a DNN site should be. We can kiss goodbye to much chance of upgrading our sites because DNN Corp will no longer see the cruft *their* upgrade processes have left in *our* sites.

Richard, if you had any idea how f'd up the old website was you would understand why they chose to go the route they did. The team that builds the software is not the team that manages the public website, so I can assure you the Q&A team has their own upgrade tests and use cases that they will continue to support.

Perhaps you haven't performed an upgrade in years, but the upgrade process is smoother than it ever has been with DNN 7.


Chris Hammond
Former DNN Corp Employee, MVP, Core Team Member, Trustee
Christoc.com Software Solutions DotNetNuke Module Development, Upgrades and consulting.
dnnCHAT.com a chat room for DotNetNuke discussions
 
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