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10/10/2014 9:37 AM
 
Ian Marlow


www.royal-southern.co.uk/
Joined: 2/20/2006
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Thanks Cathal

Re Banks OS - Exactly.  Scary really.

Mutate and Survive
 
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10/13/2014 3:26 AM
 
Philipp Becker


www.peppertree-solutions.com
Joined: 1/17/2005
Posts: 243
You know what's funny? Wenn Telerik was introduced in DNN everybody many people went like "oh this is taking DNN to a new level". Now people tend to blame Telerik for everything bad on the platform.
Cheers,
Philipp Becker, Peppertree Solutions
 
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10/16/2014 5:39 PM
 
Tony Henrich


Joined: 12/15/2008
Posts: 838
Maybe because users had high expectations either from personal experiences or from the demos on Telerik's site. If a developer creates a badly implemented provider or used a Telerik control in an inefficient way, who's fault is it.. Telerik, the developer or DNN? People need to be fair and responsible.

Talking about Telerik, what about the free pure JS open source core Kendo UI package? (This excludes the commercial version) or are we happy with jQuery and the plugins?
 
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10/16/2014 7:32 PM
 
Gift Peddie


Joined: 9/7/2004
Posts: 24
"Maybe because users had high expectations either from personal experiences or from the demos on Telerik's site. If a developer creates a badly implemented provider or used a Telerik control in an inefficient way, who's fault is it.. Telerik, the developer or DNN? People need to be fair and responsible."

I have seen custom control related late binding issues here that I think is Telerik yes there maybe developer related issues but when you pay the amount of money Telerik wants such issues are just careless implementations.  Microsoft did not provide html but neither did Telerik or any of the other custom control vendors.

"Talking about Telerik, what about the free pure JS open source core Kendo UI package? (This excludes the commercial version) or are we happy with jQuery and the plugins?"

I have a different question is Kendo even the commercial still relevant by this time next year?  And I will say maybe to the large top ten percent of projects only.  
 
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10/18/2014 12:56 PM
 
Tony Henrich


Joined: 12/15/2008
Posts: 838

Every third party control is not bug free. The issue is if the vendor doesn't fix a reported issue in a timely manner. Telerik.Web.UI.dll which comes with DNN seems to be very outdated. BTW, the assembly has no info. No version number and not even a copyright notice! The assembly should have been renamed like DotNetNuke.Telerik.Web.UI.dll so we can know which assembly it is just by the file name. Actually I never knew that this assembly was a custom one built by DNNSoftware until this year. I don't know which version DNN's version compares to Telerik. I compared DNN's version with the latest Telerik version by size and it's about 3Megs. I am going to assume that Telerik's version has a lot of fixes and naturally new features. Because of this I am going to blame DNN's version before I blame Telerik. BTW, I don't use Telerik controls and in fact much prefer DevExpress. The price of Telerik controls is comparable with other commercial UI Frameworks like DevExpress, Infragistics, ComponentOne.. etc.

The commercial version of Kendo has more controls. DNN itself probably doesn't need it but a third party module might use it. 

Now my question is if Telerik allows the distribution and posting of the open source Kendo with open source DNN modules.

 
 
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