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10/7/2007 12:49 PM
 

I am new to DNN had it installed on by my hosting company. Then a coupld of days later there was a message on the top of the screen saying the there is an upgrade. They up grade the DNN but the message is stil there.

Here is a message I received from them re the install

There instructions state.
 
Application Upgrades
 
- make sure you always backup your files/database before upgrading to a new version
- BACKUP your web.config file in the root of your site
- unzip the code over top of your existing application ( using the Overwrite and Use Folder Names options )
- rename release.config -> web.config
- merge any localized settings from your old web.config to the new web.config. These typically include:
  - connection strings ( SiteSqlServer )
  - machine keys ( validationKey and decryptionKey )
  - objectQualifier
- browse to localhost/DotNetNuke in your web browser
- the application will automatically execute the necessary database scripts and provide feedback in the browser
 
 

The merging of data in the web.config will take a bit of time, I ended up breaking your site numerous times and had to restore from a SQL backup in order to get your site online. I suggest you post at http://dotnetnuke.com, this program unlike other CMS’s really is not very user friendly.

 

Does this make any sense to you that use it regualarly I like the CMS but If this is the problem every time there is a upgrade I am not sure I should be investing the time in this cms.

Also the site map does not see all my web pages therefore google is not going through the site correctly.

Any suggestion or help. Thank you

jp

 
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10/8/2007 11:02 AM
 

Seems like you should find yourself a new hosting provider...

Copying the relevant data from the old web.config into the new one is a matter of a minute or so. Unless your hosting provider added a zillion custom keys there, it's really only the connection strings (twice), the machine keys and the database owner and object qualifier: 4 times copy-and-paste, that's it. Once that's done, all you really need is unzip the DNN install files over the existing files, and browse to your site in the browser. The update scripts will start automatically.

I've done numerous upgrades, and usually they take me about 10 minutes each (and that includes making a backup of the database as well as of the "portals" folder, just in case), and only once had problems.

Besides, it's not really necessary to make an update every time one is released. I know there are some who advocate that you should make every single update there is, but unless you want or need the new features or unless an update fixes a problem you're having with your current version, you may well follow the old rule of, never change a running system. Also, I've found that very often the first release of a new version (x.x.0) contains a lot of problems, and it's generally safer to wait for the next release. Following the forum also helps, since this shows you if there are any major issues you might have to expect when you perform the update.

As to the Sitemap problem: the sitemap should only show those pages that are visible to everybody, including people who are not logged in. Pages that require login don't show up on the sitemap unless you really are logged in as well, and Google can't find those pages since Google is not a registered user of your website.

Vera

 
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10/8/2007 11:17 AM
 

JP Fraser wrote

Does this make any sense to you that use it regualarly I like the CMS but If this is the problem every time there is a upgrade I am not sure I should be investing the time in this cms.

All products have a learning curve, unfortunately your hosting provider does not appear to have travelled this curve yet.  May I respectfully suggest that you find a host that has.  I am no DNN expert, but I don't seem to have had too many problems merging my own web.config files when necessary.

 
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10/8/2007 11:23 AM
 

Those instructions look pretty much on the money. I disagree that merging the web.config will take a bit of time. I can get it done in less than 30 seconds.

Now, as to them breaking your site numerous times and having to restore it from a backup, it would really help if they'd told you what broke or what error was displayed.

Is there a problem with upgrades? Not usually. I'm not going to say it never happens but, in my experience, it's usually an error by the end user (forgot to copy machinekeys, etc).

 
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