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1/19/2014 9:13 PM
 

It appears that the DNN Web Platfrom Installer has some issues that need to be looked at.

Background - i configured a new clear win 8.1 system as a virtualbox - so basically a fresh install on windows 8.1 as it would appear straight out of the box.  I went to the dnn website and selected the standard dnn install link.

This linked me to download a exe that contained the latest ms web platform installer, which i ran and was eventually presented with a pre-requisites page.

This page was somewhat confusing - it seemed to want me to select a sql server - but there is not server installed at this stage.  The page needs to explain in better detail that what needs to happen is that you should create a base password for a new sql server - that this pre-requisite will apparently configure - this is NOT clear at all.

Moving on from there - after working out what the page seems to want you to do.  Created a password -and click OK.

After a couple more OK clicks everything seems to process ok - iis is installer, asp.net 4.x is installed, ms sql is installed   ----   eventually the dialog shows FINISHED DOWNLOADING ---- but the installer then seems to go into a hang ---- it just sits there forever installing --- left it for a number of hours --- nothing further happen. Did this a couple of times for fresh version of windows.

After going back a forward - with things always hanging - I had a look at the default options that are beiing set for the installer itself.

IT APPEARS that one of the default settings is not correct - the setting in question is - which web server to use -  the default that was set when I opened OPTIONS - is to use webmartix  --- but I was running the standard installer - not the webmatrix installer - to get the install to actually complete - well almost more on that later - you need to change this option to IIS.

This it would appear needs to be fixed - no one trying to run the default installer - would know that this possibly needs to be changed ...

I dont have a spare clean computer to test this out on as well - only the virtualbox platform - but this happens every time a do a flush and reset of the system back to the clear default.

OK - moving on - AFTER changing this option - the installation actually seems to complete - well almost - the system tries to fire up the website in IE - and an error is displayed

IIS 8.5 Detailed Error - 404.17 - Not Found

The requested content appears to be script and will not be served by the static file handler.

AND - if you try to directly go to the hosted webpage itself you get:

 

IIS 8.5 Detailed Error - 500.21 - Internal Server Error

Handler "ExtensionlessUrl-Integrated-4.0" has a bad module "ManagedPipelineHandler" in its module list

To fix the first error - for some reason according to a browser of the web - ASP.NET 4.0 needed to uninstalled and then reinstalled.

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After doing this and a reboot or two a new set of errors start to appear.

IIS 8.5 Detailed Error - 500.19 - Internal Server Error

IIS 8.5 Detailed Error - 500.19 - Internal Server Error

Config Source:

 91: </modules>  92: <handlers> 93: <remove name="WebServiceHandlerFactory-Integrated"/>

This configuration section cannot be used at this path. This happens when the section is locked at a parent level. Locking is either by default (overrideModeDefault="Deny"), or set explicitly by a location tag with overrideMode="Deny" or the legacy allowOverride="false".

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TO fix this I then went BACK into the windows setup area - and discovered that the application development options for asp.net were also turned off - at which stage i turned them back on - and after another reboot - I WAS FINALLY able to access the site and get the DNN Installer to fire up.

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I dont have time right now to dig further on this to workout which parts are ultimately to blame for the issues 
- BUT FRANKLY - I would think this is all a bit embarrassing.

IF this is the installer process that is being recommended by DNN - and it fails to work on a clear current version on windows 8.1 - then something needs to be done about it.

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Has anyone at DNN actually tested this out on a clean machine.  I only have a virtual to test it on - so its possible there maybe be some complicating issues there too - BUT in this day and age its actually as likely as anything that this is how a new use might want to try out dnn anyway.

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This installer should install - ALL the pre-reqisites - ANY patches or Services packs that might be needed - and CONFIGURE the system so that it WORKS -  this is NOT some rare or unique system configuration or setup.

I would be interested in hearing the thoughts of anyone else on this ...

Westa

 

 
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1/19/2014 9:39 PM
 
And just to add insult to injury - the installer gets to 90% - creating superuser - and goes to sleep.

OUT OF TIME TO LOOK AT THIS FURTHER RIGHT NOW

Westa
 
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1/20/2014 4:03 AM
 
Hats off to you mate for putting this much effort into it.

Best wishes,
- Richard
Agile Development Consultant, Practitioner, and Trainer
www.dynamisys.co.uk
 
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1/21/2014 6:36 PM
 
Always find it interesting how little response one gets to any discussions regarding faults or failures in the installer.
I guess it just works for everyone else - that or everyone is getting sucked in the evoq free trial cycle.
Go figure

Westa
 
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1/22/2014 3:51 AM
 
I suspect that any newbie who tries it fails...as you discovered. They never become users so they are never here to discuss it.

The DNN folk don't care because they throw it over the wall at MS and think it's an MS problem - even though it's killing their market.

Those of us that succeed in getting over the install barrier (me for example) have a tried method for installing and won't go near the platform installer because it doesn't offer us anything. In my case that tried method is a powershell script. It's far more flexible, so long as I can remember the parameters I need to pass it.

Best wishes,
- Richard
Agile Development Consultant, Practitioner, and Trainer
www.dynamisys.co.uk
 
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