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1/21/2007 7:25 AM
 

First of all I must say I like DNN, I don't love it but I like it. And I use it.

I think the core is just great, now it is fast, stable and covers almost all my needs. The problem is in the modules. I think a project like this, which is aimed at people who don't want to stay for hours to create a single page, post a blog entry or uploading their photos should have "killer modules"... Blog, Picture Gallery, HMTL edit, Forums and one or two more. It is fine that there is more modules, but some of them should have an extra effort to make them perfect.

People look little to overall performance (well if performance is crap they don't use it, but this is not clearly the case), they look if when they post a blog entry they see it, if they can upload theis files easily, if they can type fast and create the page...

Today production DNN let them do that things? In an overall sense... yes, but not in a proper way:

If you post a blog entry and you're not in the same timezone, your entry will (or not) appear the next day, because there happen extrange things with that. If you click on the forums breadcrumb you can ramdomly be redirected to another forum, If you upload a portrait photo, the frame of the photo is likely to be badly painted. If you type your ads html code in the html editor the tags get re-encoded the second time you edit them...

What I want to say? DNN is a great framework, and it seems it has reached maturity, but the modules clearly haven't. When I tell people to install dnn for their sites, they say: "Well, the blog is not as good as XXX's" "The forums have problems"...

I think is time to stall the core development for a couple of months (or whatever) and help the modules teams to pulish the things, then we'll really have a killer framework with killer apps.

Just my 2cents.

Enrique Blanco
www.eblanco.com

 
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1/21/2007 8:00 AM
 

Enrique,

more than one year ago, the modules have been decoupled from the core into separate modules, to make it easier to handle their developement. As this was sth new to the core team, it took some time to find the best way, how to manage the project teams and their cooperation with the core team, one result is the new release tracking process. In general, there had been many different experiences, some modules have successfully issued a number of new versions, other needed time to settle themselves or the team lead realized, that he had not sufficient time to manage the project. The DNN board is currently going to review the status of all modules to improve support for them and output from them. Please be patient, I expect, there will be an official statement soon.

Besides there are a number of modules currently in the release tracker, that will be released in the next weeks and there are other teams working hard, to get the next version of their module into the release process.


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Sebastian Leupold

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1/21/2007 8:16 AM
 

You might like to read my thoughts on why I have moved away from the core blogs and I've been using them for several years, but even in less than 1 week, I'm finding at last my blogs are being picked up by more than just search words in google.

My current DNN blogs - http://www.xd.com.au/blogs.xd - My new blogs - http://blogs.ninameiers.com

I know you'll hear comments about 'open source' and 'volunteers' and I appreciate all that, but when you are using blogs seriously as I have been doing, you have to look at what's best for your business solutions and to a certain extent, many of these modules will continue to be slow to change based on the very nature of the type of project it is.  Not that all is bad with the DNN, but honestly, posting on my own blogs since 2004 has worn me out and it might help you make some decisions yourself on how you move forward.

Nina Meiers
http://www.xd.com.au
http://www.skincovered.com


Nina Meiers My Little Website
If it's on DNN, I fix, build, deploy, support,skin, host, design, consult, implement, integrate and done since 2003.
Who am I? Just a city chic, having a crack at organic berry farming.. and creating awesome websites.
 
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1/21/2007 9:43 AM
 

I have led the Survey project for nearly a year now and the only real change I have made is to upgrade it to ASP.NET 2.0. Some reasons for the slow progress:

  • You must maintain the upgrade path and consistency - I made my first mistake by changing the font and I created a default setting for answers. At first I didn't think it was a big deal, but people upgrading from previous versions yelled very loudly. Then I was able to understand. There are expectations with Core module. People expect consistency. I thought I would be creating new features and instead I was fixing my own mistakes.
  • You must fix bugs - I have put a lot of work into the Survey module but there is no new functionality. All I have done is fix bugs. With millions of people using the code the bugs never stop coming in. Many of the bugs have been there for a long time but are just reported.

I do have new features planned but I just wanted to point out some of the issues that slow down development.



Michael Washington
http://ADefWebserver.com
www.ADefHelpDesk.com
A Free Open Source DotNetNuke Help Desk Module
 
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1/21/2007 10:34 AM
 
nina wrote

... thoughts on why I have moved away from the core blogs...



Pretty is as pretty does!
As long as I keep chanting "it's a framework"- all is well.

(BTW Nina, emails to you all bounce back <sad face> )


 
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