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5/23/2007 2:41 AM
 
I've just begun the development of migrating a large vehicle dealership portal system to DotNetNuke.
 
I’m looking for information about hosting an 'industrial' DotNetNuke 4 installation with potentially hundreds of portals perhaps running under a single DNN installation.
I have concerns about ideal server setup, IIS Application Pools, Active Directory Integration, and Email Hosting with DotNetNuke and more.
 

I’m looking for information that can advise me of the best way to proceed with this project.
I'd call some major DotNetNuke hosts but I'm not sure they'd volunteer this type of information.

Thanks for any information.

 
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5/23/2007 11:17 AM
 

How many users etc are you looking to have?

From a performance perspective some things you can do to keep the site performing well is to keep the number of modules down, keep the site log and eventlog tables clean.

Also for this type of setup you will need a pretty good web and db server setup to handle the requests.


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5/23/2007 4:03 PM
 

Thanks for your reply!

Each dealership has/will have around 25 users. 
Each dealership will have a portal. Do you think it would be better to have one single DNN installation with many child portals, or a DNN installation per dealership?

The reason I ask is because I also have a separate vehicle database and I'm trying to determine the best way to make the connection between the two databases so DNN modules on the portal sites can pull vehicle informaiton.

Pros vs Cons (as I understand them)

Multiple DNN installations

Pro - It would isolate each dealership, commercial modules could be added without the worry of affecting other dealership portals.
Pro - It would allow each dealership to have its own Applicaiton Pool in IIS.

Con - If I use multiple DNN installations, I would have to install module updates to many DNN installations and adding modules to each account would require a lot of maintenance.
Con - it wouldn't allow ease of portal creation, each portal would have to be setup individually, host and administration rights set etc. (not a big deal I guess but trying to set them all the same should a change occur may be a hassle)
Con - when modules or DNN installations are upgraded, and bug fixes applied, each DNN installation would require attention rather than a single module install on a Host installation
Any more that I'm missing that you can think of?

Authentication

I'd like to create a connection between the DNN database and the client account database so that accounts can be managed through the DNN interface. I'm considering the Active Directory integration but, I don't know enough about the pros and cons... The dealership portal system has a web based backend for reporting and value add utilities such as CRM/Lead management (to be developed if you have any suggestions) All users have access to their DNN portal/installation as well as the backend tools based on roles.
My questions are...
1. Should I consider Active Directory integration using it for both backend authentication as well as DNN and what benefits or handicaps would that present?
2. Should I use DNN to set user permissions and then connect to the DNN database to pull those permissions to determine access to the web based backend. (for reporting and lead management)
3. Should I re-develop the backend incorporating DNN and add those value add tools/modules to a DNN portal?

What would you suggest?
I sincerely appreciate any advice you can provide :)

 

 
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5/24/2007 12:48 AM
 

For the most part I think you have identified the pros and cons of the individual portals vs. individual installations.

I guess the only other thing is that with individual installations you can easily move them to a different server, or a different location something that isn't as easily done  with individual portals.

The other big thing is that you can also segregate the databases for each DNN installation that might help with performance as well.

The one con that you don't have listed is diskspace, with individual DNN installations and db's for each invidiual installation the installation route would provide you with a much larger disk utilization as well as requiring multiple databases, or a VERY complicated database with hundreds of object qualifiers.

Overall I guess it is very hard to make a blanket assumption or judgement about which method is the best.  If you want, e-mail me and we can discuss a bit more away from the forums if you are interested in my opinions.

As for your other questions.

You might want to consider AD (Active Directory) integration if you have a backend system that already exists outside of DNN as it is really the only easy way to achive a "single sign on" with DNN and other applications.  (Aside from modifications to your external app to bind it to DNN...)

As for the permissions and overall backend.  I would recommend that if possible you might move your backend into DNN as modules.  In the long run if you are wanting to use DNN as your method for building the sites it might be best to set it up right and fully integrated, it could save you many headaches later!


-Mitchel Sellers
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