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7/9/2008 2:23 AM
 

Joe, can you or someone elaborate on the widgets? This is of particular interest to me as I have just released my poker widgets for PokerDIY. I use WidgetBox to make distribution easier but it would be nice to know what lies ahead with regards to widgets/gadgets etc.


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7/9/2008 5:48 PM
 

It seems only the Widget framework is what would matter in UI to the end user. Remember a CMS like DNN is a product made for end users. I see most of the improvments are for for module developers, admins, skin makers.. etc. If the end user can't see much difference, they won't be excited.

However I would like to know more about the widget framework. What does it do (apart from drag&drop if that's included)?

I wish the people responsible for DNN put out a clear roadmap so we can guage our expections. Everything is so vague, I have to read many posts, blogs & chat just so I can to put together some idea of what to expect.

Based on what I have gathered so far, I wait till it comes out and then check it out. However there needs to be a public forum dedicated to the latest 5.0 beta so dnn developers get good feedback.

I want to send out lots of thanks to all the people who are contributing to DNN.  I can't think of anything better in the .NET open source environment.

(I just wish it was done in C#   )

 

 

 
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7/9/2008 5:58 PM
 

Abdu Bukres wrote

I wish the people responsible for DNN put out a clear roadmap so we can guage our expections. Everything is so vague, I have to read many posts, blogs & chat just so I can to put together some idea of what to expect.

The DNN team does have a roadmap, available here.  It's a bit out of date, but I'm sure it will be updated in due course.  Maybe sooner, since I've pointed out how out-of-date it is! :P

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7/9/2008 6:04 PM
 

Abdu,

the primary focus on 5.0 is major architectural changes that will support the rich set of new and enhanced features in later versions. I expect that these future features will be discussed a lot more when they're being designed, but at the minute there is no fixed specification beyond the areas that Shaun identified at the time of the cambrian annoncements. There are a few blogs worth reading to get an idea of some 5.0 changes (Charles blog http://www.dotnetnuke.com/Community/Blogs/tabid/825/BlogID/15/Default.aspx and Shauns blog http://www.dotnetnuke.com/Community/Blogs/tabid/825/BlogID/1/Default.aspx )

As always you can see the fixes and enhancements for forthcoming versions in the roadmap @ http://support.dotnetnuke.com/project/RoadMap.aspx?PROJID=2

Note: the latest 5.0 beta was released to a large group (dotnetnuke marketplace vendor, project Sponsor, Benefactor or Subscriber), they already provide us with plenty of feedback (it's a large effort just handling all the duplicate issue's getting logged).

Cathal


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7/9/2008 8:30 PM
 

I just wish it was done in C#   )

Each time I see this sentiment I have to disagree.  As someone who prefers C# over VB for a host of reasons, I'm baffled when people want a C# DNN version.  Read the quite valid reasons given in the sticky 'where's the c# version' thread as to why supporting two versions would be a nightmare with little benefit.

If you like C# there is nothing stopping you from using it in your DNN install.  You shouldn't be modifying core code - and any enhancements you make to DNN should be done through either Modules, Providers or HttpModules. Each of these can be written in C# and used without issue.  Personally I write all my DNN code in C# and have never encountered a problem.    It all gets compiled down to the same IL code anyway, so there's no advantage at all to having the core in C#.   In addition, VB is very readable for learning programmers, at the expense of annyoing more seasoned developers with it's verboseness and occasional syntax ambiguity.  If one of the aims of DNN is to introduce an advanced web platform to a less-than-experienced users, then you could successfully argue that VB is the correct language choice.

The only time I ever have to look at VB is if I need to understand what is going on in the Core code to solve a problem or just 'get' what is going on.  That would represent about 1% of my total code-facing time with DNN.

And onto the topic of the OP - for me the direction the core is taking with 5.0 is the right one.  There aren't enough people and resources on the core team to cater for every whim in end-user demand.  However, if they setup the platform to allow for greater freedom of skinning and development, the rest of the community can get to work in developing the kinds of things that people want - whether released for free or as commercial modules.  All successful platforms ensure that developers for that platform have all the tools necessary to do and create what they want.  I would say that is more important than glitzy UI features - because you can always build UI bits and pieces, but it's much harder to re-engineer a platform to position it for future capabilities.

 
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