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2/19/2009 2:52 PM
 

Am I alone is my resentment of SEO and "Friendly URLs" It seems we have to sacrifce a great deal of time and money to make a URL that Google likes.  I really feel that it is ethically wrong that they essentially control what our URLs look.

Have a look at this ridiculous URL:

http://www.thousandislandslife.com/BackIssues/Archive/tabid/393/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/81/More-than-a-Salad-Dressing-and-ldquoSeersquos-Famous-Old-Time-Candiesrdquo.aspx

How is that good for anybody?  If I ruled the world, that would be www.thousandislandslive.com/page.aspx?article=81.  Does Google really penalize search results for pages that have querystrings?  And if so, am I alone in thinking that it is evil?  With almost all valid web content residing in databases, why would a querystring be bad?

I am just curious as to other's thoughts.

Mike

 
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2/19/2009 5:11 PM
 

Does Google really penalize search results for pages that have querystrings? 

No, but the name of the page and the folder to get to it is more important than querystring variables in determining the ranking of the page, so putting the keywords in the page name is a way to make it rank better.

All pages get indexed, it is how it is indexed that gave rise to the SEO industry.

GoogleBot could not care less what your urls look like, but once it finds it and the algorithms start spinning their web index, then it can mean the difference between page 1 and page 10 in the SERP.  And if you are on page 10 then very few people will know your page exists.

Google spends a lot of time making their algorithms match what humans like to see, so your ridiculous Url example above may very well score lower since it has too many words in the page name.


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2/19/2009 5:24 PM
 

As an example, check out this search for "DotNetNuke Performance"

I have a very nice looking and short page name called PageBlaster.aspx down at the bottom of page one.

But notice all the pages that are ranked higher in the results. The keywords DotNetNuke and Performance are in the Urls of those pages.

So I just added a 301 redirect and my new page name is http://www.snapsis.com/DotNetNuke-Performance-Caching-Compression-Optimization.aspx

Lets see how far up I move :)


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2/19/2009 6:18 PM
 

Thanks for helping me understand.  When I search for "More than a Salad Dressing" our site is near the top of the results but I don't see that as a useful search.  If I search for Thousand Islands, we are on page one but near the bottom.  But if I do the same search in Canada using Google.ca, we are badly buried.  Things like this infuriate me especially when we have the most relevent content of all the sites ahead of us. 

I have to keep the site easy to maintain as the content is all entered by writers, not tekkies and URL naming can get very complicated.

 
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2/19/2009 6:47 PM
 

In general, the page name should be the same or a condensed version of what you would use a title of an article or a document.

I'm sure you realize it but, "... we have the most relevent content of all the sites ahead of us."  is very subjective. 
I get your point about why does google get to be the judge of that, but the answer is because they do it better than any other search engine.

 


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